Why do science hide the truth?

[Faithofchristian]

Irrelevant. I place my trust in the physical evidence, not in men with their biases and propaganda.

But you haven't showed exactly what was the cause behind it, As you keep running around in circles

So again,what was the cause behind it

 

[Faithofchristian]

Irrelevant. I place my trust in the physical evidence, not in men with their biases and propaganda.

Ok, by that physical evidence, what was the cause behind it. For it to happen?
And then whatever that cause is, then explain what caused that to happen, and then explain what the cause that to happen and ect--------

 

[Polymath257]

Ok, so now explain exactly what caused that light from distance galaxies?

Caused the light? The stars in those galaxies emitting it. Just like our sun does.

 

[Polymath257]

Ok, by that physical evidence, what was the cause behind it. For it to happen?
And then whatever that cause is, then explain what caused that to happen, and then explain what the cause that to happen and ect--------

Assuming everything has a cause again?

 

[Faithofchristian]

Caused the light? The stars in those galaxies emitting it. Just like our sun does.

But that doesn't explain exactly the cause

Ok so explain what caused the light and what caused the sun,

Ok the Universe exist, now what caused the Universe to exist ?
And if by chance, you say the big bang, So what caused the big bang.
And what caused that, and so it keeps going and going without a cause to show exactly what happened. That caused everything to happen.

 

[Faithofchristian]

Assuming everything has a cause again?

There's no room for assuming or assumptions.
If something happened, then whats the cause behind it.
So if the big bang happen, then what was the cause behind it to happen and then what was the cause behind that to happen and so it goes on and on and on and on and on. Without showing a cause behind it all .what's the cause behind it

 

[ImmortalFlame]

Of not knowing how exactly everything came into existence, That means there is lack of knowledge

Sure there is, but that completely ignores the knowledge we DO have, such as how to analyse cosmic background radiation, or the facts we learn from studying the observable Universe. Once again, the existence of uncertainty (or ignorance, or lack of knowledge) does not negate the existence of knowledge.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

There's no room for assuming or assumptions.

So why are you a Christian?

If something happened, then whats the cause behind it.

Is "we don't know" not an acceptable answer?

 

[Polymath257]

There's no room for assuming or assumptions.
If something happened, then whats the cause behind it.

You are assuming it has a cause. Why?

 

[Faithofchristian]

So why are you a Christian?


Is "we don't know" not an acceptable answer?

Then how can people claim the big bang theory. When people don't know the cause behind it, what cause the big bang. And then what caused that and what caused that and so ect--------

So what I'm asking .for the big bang theory to happen, What was the cause behind it for it to happen and what was cause behind that to happen and what was the cause behind that to happen and so on

 

[ratiocinator]

It's all there within the bible/scriptures that's where the evidence lays.

Where? The bible is a book of stories. It is generally incoherent and often self-contradictory. Where is there any evidence of a god?

 

[ImmortalFlame]

Then how can people claim the big bang theory. When people don't know the cause behind it, what cause the big bang. And then what caused that and what caused that and so ect--------

The big bang theory is merely a theoretical model used to explain what the evidence shows us. What the evidence suggests is that the Universe expanded out from a singularity around 13.7 billion years ago, and the big bang theory is a proposed explanatory model that shows how this may have happened and collates and examines the evidence supporting it.

Asking "what caused the big bang" is currently pointless, because we currently don't know a) if the big bang necessarily needed a cause, b) if causation even existed prior to the big bang, or c) if the big bang is capable of self-causation due to quantum physics.

 

[ratiocinator]

Then how can people claim the big bang theory. When people don't know the cause behind it, what cause the big bang. And then what caused that and what caused that and so ect--------

This really isn't difficult. There is plentiful evidence that the universe has been expanding from a hot dense state about 13.5 billion years ago. We don't need to know what happened before that do accept the evidence that it happened.

 

[Faithofchristian]

Where? The bible is a book of stories. It is generally incoherent and often self-contradictory. Where is there any evidence of a god?

So that's what you say, as it is everyone doesn't agree with that analogy of yours.

 

[ratiocinator]

So that's what you say, as it is everyone doesn't agree with that analogy of yours.

I didn't use an analogy. Where is the slightest hint of a morsel of actual evidence for your god...?

 

[Faithofchristian]

This really isn't difficult. There is plentiful evidence that the universe has been expanding from a hot dense state about 13.5 billion years ago. We don't need to know what happened before that do accept the evidence that it happened.

Well if you don't know, then that just shows lack of knowledge of anything.

So you say --->that the universe has been expanding from a hot dense state about 13.5 billion years ago.
So again what's the cause behind it. For it to expand?
Seeing no one was there to see it expanding.

 

[Polymath257]

Then how can people claim the big bang theory. When people don't know the cause behind it, what cause the big bang. And then what caused that and what caused that and so ect--------

So what I'm asking .for the big bang theory to happen, What was the cause behind it for it to happen and what was cause behind that to happen and what was the cause behind that to happen and so on

OK, we know the Big Bang scenario is essentially correct: the universe is expanding, it is about 13.7 billion years old. It was once much hotter and denser. There is a lot more we know about the details.

What we do NOT know is whether there was a cause for the current expansion. But we don't need to know what the cause is to know that the universe is expanding. We do not need to know a cause to know that the universe was once much hotter and denser.

Furthermore, it is quite possible there *was no cause*. This is the possibility that you are consistently ignoring. It is quite possible the Big Bang doesn't *have* a cause at all.

So your asking for a cause, a 'why did it happen' is making an implicit assumption that may not be actually true: that it must have a cause.

 

[Faithofchristian]

I didn't use an analogy. Where is the slightest hint of a morsel of actual evidence for your god...?

Like I said all the evidence of the existence of God that I need lays within the bible/scriptures .

So what evidence do you have that the universe happen exactly the way you say it did, have any proof of evidence that someone was there to give account that it actually happened that way.

 

[Polymath257]

Then how can people claim the big bang theory. When people don't know the cause behind it, what cause the big bang. And then what caused that and what caused that and so ect--------

So what I'm asking .for the big bang theory to happen, What was the cause behind it for it to happen and what was cause behind that to happen and what was the cause behind that to happen and so on

yes, we understand what you are asking for. But why do you think there was a cause at all? Why do you think everything *has* a cause?

 

[Faithofchristian]

yes, we understand what you are asking for. But why do you think there was a cause at all? Why do you think everything *has* a cause?

Because without a cause, people have nothing.
Look take the big bang theory, What was the cause behind it for it to happen and what was the cause behind that for it happen, that caused the big bang theory to happen.
You see whatever people can come up with, whats the cause behind it for it to happen?
That's all I'm asking, for everything to happen, What was the cause behind it for it to happen.