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Featured Why do not some understand that the Bible teaches that Jesus is God?

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by calm, Jul 4, 2019.

  1. calm

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    1. Jesus is omnipotent (Revelation 1:8) (Matthew 28:18)
    2. Jesus is omnipresent (Matthew 28:20)
    3. A prophet calls Jesus God (Isaiah 9:6)
    4. The apostles call Jesus God (John 20:28-29) (Romans 9:5) (1 John 5:20)
    5. God the father calls Jesus God (Hebrews 1:8)
    6. Jesus is the image of the invisible Al (Colossians 1:15)
    7. God is the shepherd (Palm 23,1) = Jesus is the shepherd (John 10:11)
    8. God became flesh (human) and Jesus is this flesh (John 1:1+14) (1 Timothy 3:16)
    9. Jesus is worshiped (Acts 7:59-60)
    10. Jesus accepts prayers (John 14:13-14)
    11. Jesus and the father are one (John 10:30)
    12. God is the only Redeemer (Isaiah 43:11) = Jesus is the Redeemer (Luke 2:11)
    13. God will judge the world (Psalm 98:9) = Jesus is the judge (Matthew 25:31-46)
    14. God is the eternal (Psalm 90:2) = Jesus is the eternal (Revelation 1:18)
    15. God is the rock (1.Samuel 2:2) = Jesus is the rock (1 Corinthians 10:4)
    16. God is the Lords of Lords (Deuteronomy 10:17) = Jesus is the Lord of Lords (Revelation 19:16)
    17. God is the first and the last (Isaiah 44:6) = Jesus is the first and the last (Revelation 1:17-18)
    18. Jesus forgives sins (Mark 2:5)
    19. Jesus demands that one should honor him as one does God honor (John 5:23)
    20. Jesus is the Creator (Rom. 11:36) (Col. 1:16-17)
    21. Jesus is omniscient (John 21:17) (John 6:64)
    22. Who has seen Jesus, has seen God(John 14:9)
    23. God is the light (Psalm 1:27) = Jesus is the light (John 8:12)
    24. Whoever believes in Jesus believes in God (John 12:44)
    is not that clear enough?
     
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  2. The Reverend Bob

    The Reverend Bob Fart Machine and Beastmaster

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    If you want Jesus to be God then he is God to you and that doesn't mean he is God to everybody else if they don't want him to be. Okay?
     
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  3. calm

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    The Bible teaches that Jesus is God. Okay?
     
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    The Reverend Bob Fart Machine and Beastmaster

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    If you want to believe that then that is on you not everyone else. If they get from the Bible that he wasn't God then that is on them. It is a choice people make when they interpret the Bible. Okay?
     
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    Why does Jesus pray, okay?
     
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    Earthling David Henson

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    No it doesn't. At all. It's a pagan concept, unsupported by scripture.
     
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  7. calm

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    No then they are wrong, beacuse Jesus is God. Okay?
     
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    The Reverend Bob Fart Machine and Beastmaster

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    That is your own personal belief and opinion, other people might believe otherwise. Okay?
     
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    If it wasn't, could you make it clearer for me? Okay?
     
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    You forgot to end your post in okay. Okay?
     
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  11. calm

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    Yes as Human Jesus prayed to his father, and now?
     
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    The Reverend Bob Fart Machine and Beastmaster

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    I think it would be cool if every thread post ended with "Okay?". Okay?
     
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    He wasn't God all along? :eek:
     
  14. calm

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    No you do not understand. Thats the problem.
     
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    because google isnt a person. If i say "why doesnt everyone believe what google presents as fact,?" is co-equal to your statement.

    You might try the source rather than a book. The book will then make more sense. The book is not a map.
     
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    Please cite the Biblical references that indicate that he wasn't God before he was crucified. Okay?
     
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    Well, see the thing is that it's easy to make a simple statement and attach a scripture to it seemingly projecting your personal beliefs which come from Plato instead of the Bible. A brief examination of each of the above demonstrates you to have done that instead of making any accurate statement about Jesus being a god. Just as Moses was appointed God by Jehovah and Jehovah called the judges of Israel gods.
     
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    If Jesus is human then worshiping him as God would be idolatry. And now?
     
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    Okay, but it's also irrelevant. Okay? I may personally believe that you are Elvis beaming his thoughts to us from some distant location in outer space. It means nothing. It certainly doesn't make it true.
     
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    Jesus was God as human and after he was crusified he was God.
    Jesus(God) humbled himself. During his time on earth he renounced all his divinity, he became like a human.
    That's why he ate and drank like people and felt pains like people and thats why he prayed like people . God became literally human.
    Johannes 1:1+14
    1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 14 And the Word became flesh(human) and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.

    Philippians 2:5-8
    Have this mind among yourselves, which is yours in Jesus,
    who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped,
    but emptied himself, by taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men.
    And being found in human form, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross.
     
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