Why do muslims hate democracy

[Rotcha]

Like what good beneficial can a theocracy have?
History has shown its the worst set of rule ever made. With democracy people can decide whats for the best. Equality for men and female, everyone has rights, freedom of speech, freedom of religion.

Not saying all support this. But Islamic countries in middle east seem to be for theocracy, Sharia Laws etc.

 

[LuisDantas]

Not sure if you are asking a question, but I will try to give you my perception of the answer anyway.

Muslims tend to value order, stability, and clear societal roles. They tend to have learned to dislike internal conflict and to seek unity of purpose, and often end up sacrificing personal freedom to some degree in order to cooperate with that.

Such traits are both cause and consequence of a perspective that is very much oriented towards a central, supposedly perfect and unquestionable authority. In their case, God as expressed by way of the Quran.

While I don't encourage such a view, I understand that it can be tempting once one has convinced himself that there is a God and that the Quran comes from him.

And let's be sincere. Democracy and freedoms are necessary. But they are not easy. They are not safe. And naturally, for many people, they are not appealing either.

 

[Estro Felino]

I am sorry to say that the Sharia is the total rejection of the Hellenistic vision of the state.
First let's analyze what democracy means: it comes from the Greek, and means government of the people: dimos- kratìa
The fulfillment of the Greek vision of man and divinity has its fulfillment in the Hellenistic period, when centralized states like Egypt were created.

Here are the Hellenistic principles which involve law, sociology, anthropology:

- Freedom of sexual expression: women have the right to show their body and to wear provoking clothes.
- Freedom of thought: people are free not to agree with the decisions taken by the governmental assemblies.
- Freedom of religion, of thought, of association.
- Cultural Equality, or cosmopolitanism: all cultures and all religions are equal before the law and before the state authority
- Juridic equality between man and woman: women can be supreme authorities (Cleopatra)


Are these principles compatible with the Sharia Law?

 

[sandandfoam]

Like what good beneficial can a theocracy have?
History has shown its the worst set of rule ever made. With democracy people can decide whats for the best. Equality for men and female, everyone has rights, freedom of speech, freedom of religion.

Not saying all support this. But Islamic countries in middle east seem to be for theocracy, Sharia Laws etc.

What is democracy? Where is it practiced?
On what basis would you presume that Muslims have a homogeneous view on anything?

 

[sandandfoam]

I am sorry to say that the Sharia is the total rejection of the Hellenistic vision of the state.
First let's analyze what democracy means: it comes from the Greek, and means government of the people: dimos- kratìa
The fulfillment of the Greek vision of man and divinity has its fulfillment in the Hellenistic period, when centralized states like Egypt were created.

Here are the Hellenistic principles which involve law, sociology, anthropology:

- Freedom of sexual expression: women have the right to show their body and to wear provoking clothes.
- Freedom of thought: people are free not to agree with the decisions taken by the governmental assemblies.
- Freedom of religion, of thought, of association.
- Cultural Equality, or cosmopolitanism: all cultures and all religions are equal before the law and before the state authority
- Juridic equality between man and woman: women can be supreme authorities (Cleopatra)


Are these principles compatible with the Sharia Law?

The Athenians thought the highest form of love was that between a man and a boy. Theirs was an aggressive society built on slavery. Women were repressed. Hardly an ideal.

 

[Estro Felino]

The Athenians thought the highest form of love was that between a man and a boy. Theirs was an aggressive society built on slavery. Women were repressed. Hardly an ideal.

well...do you really think that the Athens of the V century is the same thing as the Hellenistic Egypt by the time of Cleopatra?

 

[Sunstone]

Theocracy is far easier to accomplish than democracy. Therefore, there will be more theocracies in the world than there will be democracies.

 

[LuisDantas]

Theocracy is far easier to accomplish than democracy. Therefore, there will be more theocracies in the world than there will be democracies.

Even if many of them attempt to convince themselves that they are democracies instead.

 

[Harikrish]

Islam is a complete religion. It has both the moral conduct and the rule of law for its followers to live under. There is no need for the separation of religion and state in Islam because both the law and religion in Islam complement each other. Some of the punishments might appear draconian. But that is better than invoking the wrath of God who destroyed the world several times in the Bible because he was frustrated by the flaunting of his commandments.

 

[Sunstone]

There is no need for the separation of religion and state in Islam because both the law and religion in Islam complement each other.

Balderdash. The reason for separation of church and state is not and never has been to make allowance for divisions between them. Instead, it is to prevent the two from corrupting each other.

 

[Sunstone]

Like what good beneficial can a theocracy have?
History has shown its the worst set of rule ever made. With democracy people can decide whats for the best. Equality for men and female, everyone has rights, freedom of speech, freedom of religion.

Not saying all support this. But Islamic countries in middle east seem to be for theocracy, Sharia Laws etc.

Do you have any actual science indicating that "Muslims hate democracy"?

 

[Whiterain]

Islam is a pervasive belief...

Somewhat like Old kingdoms that believed in one way and enforced it as well.

It's a belief we 1st worlders just got soft on... Things are bound to change; I mean something like complete eradication of the party.

Then another party will come in, "No, that's wong.", save you fascists.

 

[Revoltingest]

Democracy is messy. Even when limited by a constitution, it imposes far fewer prescriptions
than your typical religion. And even these will change unpredictably along with the culture.
This just won't sit well with someone who believes in an absolutely true inerrant unchanging
morality with a long long list of requirements & prohibitions, even for non-believers.
An authoritarian theocracy (provided that it's the right religion in charge) is a perfect fit
for people with a strict religion teaching "submission".

 

[Harikrish]

Balderdash. The reason for separation of church and state is not and never has been to make allowance for divisions between them. Instead, it is to prevent the two from corrupting each other.

We already have evidence the separation of religion and state in not very practical. Look at America.

53 million babies killed by abortions between 1971 to 2011 in America. Half the states support same sex marriages, the other half doesn't. Half the government support a safety net for the poor and needy and the other half wants to let them starve. More Americans have been killed by Americans than all those killed by terrorists combined. When a country loses its morality, democracy is the worst solution. It only follows the will of the majority, powerless, helpless to take a corrective course.

 

[Sunstone]

We already have evidence the separation of religion and state in not very practical. Look at America.

53 million babies killed by abortions between 1971 to 2011 in America. Half the states support same sex marriages, the other half doesn't. Half the government support a safety net for the poor and needy and the other half wants to let them starve. More Americans have been killed by Americans than all those killed by terrorists combined. When a country loses its morality, democracy is the worst solution. It only follows the will of the majority, powerless, helpless to take a corrective course.

Even assuming all that you've listed is evidence of moral decadence -- rather than, in some instances, of moral health -- it would be a whole lot worse in America if church and state were mixed. Just as the Middle East has suffered and continues to suffer from mixing mosque and state.

 

[Al-Fatihah]

Like what good beneficial can a theocracy have?
History has shown its the worst set of rule ever made. With democracy people can decide whats for the best. Equality for men and female, everyone has rights, freedom of speech, freedom of religion.

Not saying all support this. But Islamic countries in middle east seem to be for theocracy, Sharia Laws etc.

Response: The originator of creation will naturally know what law is best for humankind than any person. So only through Allah's law can a person have the best rights. Not through democracy, which is subjective and can always change by just a vote.

 

[Harikrish]

One can see that you would impose your values on Americans.

I only responded to the OP why Muslims hate democracy? I have not tried to answer why Americans love democracy. But we know it cost America over 3 trillion dollars and loss of countless lives to force it on Islamic countries with little success. In fact America destabilized the middle-east in its attempts.

Americans are paranoid because they are surrounded by people of countries they once tried to destroy. Vietnamese, Koreans, Germans, Mexicans etc. etc.

 

[Revoltingest]

Response: The originator of creation will naturally know what law is best for humankind than any person. So only through Allah's law can a person have the best rights. Not through democracy, which is subjective and can always change by just a vote.

A problem: Which originator of creation, & which sacred book should rule us?
There are so many religions & flavors....Hindus, Jains, Jews, Xians, LDS,
Islam, Catholics, Zoroastrianism, Shinto, Zuni, Taoism, Buddhism, Rastafaris,
Sikhs, Cherokee, Inuit, Wicca, Scientology, etc, etc?
Which one should rule all the others?

 

[Al-Fatihah]

A problem: Which originator of creation, & which sacred book should rule us?
There are so many religions & flavors....Hindus, Jains, Jews, Xians, LDS,
Islam, Catholics, Zoroastrianism, Shinto, Zuni, Taoism, Buddhism, Rastafaris,
Sikhs, Cherokee, Inuit, Wicca, Scientology, etc, etc?
Which one should rule all the others?

Response: The one that is true has the authority, which is the Qur'an.

 

[Harikrish]

A problem: Which originator of creation, & which sacred book should rule us?
There are so many religions & flavors....Hindus, Jains, Jews, Xians, LDS,
Islam, Catholics, Zoroastrianism, Shinto, Zuni, Taoism, Buddhism, Rastafaris,
Sikhs, Cherokee, Inuit, Wicca, Scientology, etc, etc?
Which one should rule all the others?

I am a Vedantist raised in the Vedantic tradition, a Hindu by birth. I believe Hinduism will prevail. It was already predicted in the Bible.

Matthew 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God.