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Why do humans believe so many things that are not true?

Discussion in 'Psychology' started by Evangelicalhumanist, Aug 11, 2022.

  1. Wildswanderer

    Wildswanderer Well-Known Member

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    You can't have laws without design. There's no reason for order to exist in a godless universe. In fact there's no reason for anything.
     
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    Now you are showing that you do not understand what a physical law is. Human laws, which are prescriptive need a writer. Natural laws, which are actually human made things, are descriptive. Tney describe nature. They do not tell nature what to do.

    There does not appear to be a thinking being behind the universe, nor does there appear to be a need for one.
     
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    Unfortunately when unenlightened self interest comes into play IQ's can quickly approach neck size.
     
  4. Wildswanderer

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    Sure, order just sprung from nothingness for no reason. Makes perfect sense if your brain dead.
     
  5. Subduction Zone

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    LOL! I guess that it does. But since I am not brain dead it makes no sense to me.

    You keep forgetting that "no reason" is your belief. It is not the belief of those that follow the sciences. Once again, what is your evidence for your beliefs?
     
  6. Twilight Hue

    Twilight Hue Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.

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    I think its a simple matter of wishing and or wanting for something so bad, it just has, and got to be true.
     
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    Twilight Hue Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.

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    True. I think personal comfort plays a significant role as well. Not everyone can take a straight solid shot of whiskey in life.
     
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    Twilight Hue Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.

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    Alan Watts pointed out that the brain itself is incased in complete darkness and has no ability whatsoever to see, taste or hear for itself.

    It's all completely dependent on information from other organisms to provide that information.
     
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    Science has no ultimate reason for anything to exist.
     
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    Order ! Order! ;)
     
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    It does not need one. You don't have a reason either.
     
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    It definitely needs one to explain why there's anything. But that's a problem with science... it's very limited in explaining anything.
     
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    Really? Please support your claim. So far I have found no evidence that supports what you said. There is no evidence of a personality of any sort being involved.
     
  14. mikkel_the_dane

    mikkel_the_dane Shadow Wolf's Aspie sibling

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    Well, even rational is not always true.
     
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    mikkel_the_dane Shadow Wolf's Aspie sibling

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    He is using know and fact as seeing a stone.
    The only fact in evidence of God is that some people think there is a God/Gods. Others think there are none. I don't do either and don't claim to know for both the positive and negative.
     
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    I've always assumed I picked this up from Michael Jackson, but when I was a little kid I thought people changing skin color was normal and something that just sometimes happens.
    As for the step on a crack thing, I think I was in third grade when I first heard it. And even as a child, hearing it I knew it was bogus so while the guy I heard it from was carefully avoiding all the cracks I was stomping on each and every one we came across.
     
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    Makes me wish we could ship off the religious so the scientist would fair better and be more welcomed and celebrated in society.
     
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  18. mikkel_the_dane

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    Well, I can see the limits both in religion and science. So if that is the case, we ought to get rid of both. ;)
     
  19. Shadow Wolf

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    Or think if it this way:
    England sent its religious nuts to one country and criminals to another. The country started by criminals is doing better.
     
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    On the need to believe as a starting point of truth...

    This, my confused friend, moreso speaks to the veracity of human nature than the validity of individual interpretations (which are always parts of a whole). It more reflects the need to believe in something as the motivation behind a life of truth, whether that be the belief in atheism or the knowledge of God. Only a life of truth leads one to God. As we are products of our conditioning and genetics, conditioning and genetics almost always leads one to truth, unless you're evil or atheist.
     
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