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Why do homophobic people bother?

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by enchanted_one1975, Apr 15, 2010.

  1. yourhopeboundheart

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    a lot of people's hatred for homosexuals happens behind closed doors, and you think that they should have their skulls brutalized? i'm failing to see the difference between hating homosexuals and hating homophobics.
     
  2. blackout

    blackout Violet.

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    Your ketchup doesn't love you? :confused:

    I'm sorry... :kissbette
     
  3. I.S.L.A.M617

    I.S.L.A.M617 Illuminatus

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    Homosexuals don't hurt anybody, homophobes do.
     
  4. LittleNipper

    LittleNipper Well-Known Member

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    Well, I do care that they may one day wish to have sex with either my children or my grandchildren or their children. No one is an island. Just because people think that they should be able to do whatever they wish doesn't mean that makes other people who disagree with them hypocritical, bigoted, or dysfunctional. And frankly, if anyone is dysfunctional, it is a person who feels that life without sexual engagement with people of the same sex to be a tragedy.
     
  5. LittleNipper

    LittleNipper Well-Known Member

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    No, you likely feel that a good candidate is one that tells everyone anything they wish to hear and then once elected, they do whatever suits them --------------- it's your bed...
     
  6. no-body

    no-body Well-Known Member

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    If they accept then by your standards you have failed as a father as no one is putting a gun to their head. Forcing your morality on consenting adults whom are hurting no one is fascism, this is not up for debate, period. If you are even threatened by a homosexual coming on to one of your kids, then you have some serious issues more so than anyone that is homosexual.

    This is a two way street. Now go through the mental gymnastics to explain how your homophobic sources are more objective.
     
  7. I.S.L.A.M617

    I.S.L.A.M617 Illuminatus

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    :tribal: I curse you with 3 gay sons. Don't try to deny that you're a bigot, your posts speak for themselves. The only conclusions I can draw from them are
    1)that you're an overzealous religious nutjob, or
    2)You're gay yourself and scared to come out so you spend your time hating gays, or
    3)Both 1 and 2
     
  8. LittleNipper

    LittleNipper Well-Known Member

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    I believe that frankly yes, there could be a negative effect to both our real freedoms and responsibilities of our elected officials. I look at San Francisco. I see what has happening here in New Jersey. The problem is not only how some people view sex. The problem is that some people don't wish to draw the line anywhere. They will allow anything that they think has nothing to do with themselves, particularly; as long as, they get what they want for themselves and to H__L with everyone else. I would not wish to live in a society such as that.
     
  9. I.S.L.A.M617

    I.S.L.A.M617 Illuminatus

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    We already live in a society where nobody cares about anyone else, welcome to capitalism. It seems like the only time you care about anyone else is when they're doing something your religion tells you is an abomination, with a special focus on victimless crimes.
     
  10. no-body

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  11. LittleNipper

    LittleNipper Well-Known Member

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    Funny, to imagine that a "gay" person may actually know what is totally wrong with homosexuality than some young stupid liberal who thinks he know it all, and doesn't understand squat.

    I'm not a homosexual, but you've already lead everyone to believe that one's sexuality means nothing... Are you changing your tune?
     
  12. I.S.L.A.M617

    I.S.L.A.M617 Illuminatus

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    I didn't say there was anything wrong with you being gay, I said you need to admit it to yourself.
     
  13. Rainbow Mage

    Rainbow Mage Lib Democrat/Agnostic/Epicurean-ish/Buddhist-ish

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    What is wrong with being gay lil nipper? What are homosexuals supposed to be admitting to ourselves about what's wrong about it? LOL.
     
  14. Mr Cheese

    Mr Cheese Well-Known Member

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    on your own admittance...

    you're not homo or hetero

    you're asexual

    which frankly is another reason why your assertions and beliefs are ridiculous
    Its like a man attempting to understand period cramps.


    Asexual - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

    Main Entry: asex·u·al
    Pronunciation: \(ˌ)ā-ˈsek-sh(ə-)wəl, -shü-əl, -ˈsek-shəl\
    Function: adjective
    Date: 1830

    3 : devoid of sexuality <an asexual relationship>
    — asex·u·al·i·ty \&#716;&#257;-&#716;sek-sh&#601;-&#712;wa-l&#601;-t&#275;, -shü-&#712;a-\ noun
    — asex·u·al·ly \(&#716;)&#257;-&#712;sek-sh(&#601;-)w&#601;-l&#275;, -shü-&#601;-, -&#716;sek-sh(&#601;-)l&#275;\ adverb
     
  15. LittleNipper

    LittleNipper Well-Known Member

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    When I was a youn man, there was this person I wanted to murder. I hated his guts. I got into a fight with him and I didn't kill him. Did that make me a murderer? I had a choice. I chose not to kill him, though I'd have enjoyed beating his skull in at the time and had the opportunity.

    It would only have reduced me to his level, and I didn't want to be like him...
     
  16. England my lionheart

    England my lionheart Rockerjahili Rebel
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    Why do Homophobic people bother? well the result of their bothering was the death of a good friend,he was a Catholic,makes me angry that all those Paedo Priests would demonise such a great person.

    The problem with Homophobes is they do not realise Homosexualality has been around for ever,its not a new phenomena or anything like that,before i worked in the Theatre i did'nt really have any contact with "Gay" people but when i did guess what,they were just people like me.

    Some Homophobic people have this mad idea that because someone is Homosexual they are promiscuous and want to bed anyone of the same sex which is quite ridiculous and they ought to grow up IMO.
     
  17. Mr Cheese

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    yes, murder is the same as sexuality :facepalm:
     
  18. I.S.L.A.M617

    I.S.L.A.M617 Illuminatus

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    You can't compare homosexuality to murder. There's a victim in a murder.
     
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  19. yourhopeboundheart

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    obviously homophobe-ophobes are capable of "grinding" a certain minority group's "skulls".

    and be careful with terms. everybody hurts people. homosexuals are just as capable of violence as homophobics, the majority of people who are hateful toward homosexuals never end up committing any acts of violence based on their beliefs.

    the point i am trying to make (and it's not condoning homophobia) is that committing/threatening acts of violence based on preconceived notions regarding someone's group (regardless of what that group may be) is not a solution to acts of violence, or even quiet disapproval, committed/threatened based on preconceived notions regarding another group.

    if i am allowed to have (consensual) sexual encounters with whomever i want in the privacy of my own home without fear of violence- then i am allowed to harbor hateful misgivings (i would call them misconceptions) in the privacy of my own mind. you cant win a persecution contest with a fundamentalist, so let's not try by making broad threats.
     
  20. *Anne*

    *Anne* Bliss Ninny

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    I won't add to the pile-on, but I would like to discuss why anyone thinks gay marriage would lead to an eroding of rights and freedoms for our society in general. I don't feel it will, but I'm willing to hear others' thoughts.

    Little Nipper or anyone else who feels this way, feel free to PM me anytime.
     
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