Why Do Conservative Voters Allow Themselves to be Screwed Over by Their Leaders?

[Sunstone]

Conservative voters were told (and many of them uncritically swallowed) that the recent tax "reform" bill passed into law would result in higher wages via good old "Trickle Down Economics".

Indeed, shortly after passage of the law, a tiny handful of companies gave out small one time bonuses and even minor wage increases to their low paid workers. That proved to be crumbs enough for some conservative voters who rushed to take those tokens as proof that they were not once again being screwed by their leaders.

Well, some people just never learn. Conservative leaders are no friend of the average man or woman. They are friends only of the ultra rich and wealthy.

So, why do conservative voters again and again and again allow themselves to be screwed over by their leaders? Seriously. What's going on with that? You'd think they'd learn after being screwed over once or twice. But that doesn't seem to be the case. So what's happening?

It's not like every conservative voter in the country is dumb. Many are pretty smart. So why are they seemingly content to be fooled over and over? What's going on there?

Conservative voters have not always had this problem. At least not to the extent they do today. Forty or fifty years ago, if my memory serves me, conservative voters were not so easily and routinely fooled by their leaders. But things have changed quite a bit since then. Why is that?

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[Skwim]

Why Do Conservative Voters Allow Themselves to be Screwed Over by Their Leaders?

They simply don't know any better. Not that they choose not to know any better; they're simply incapable of it.

Cases in point:

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[Sunstone]

They simply don't know any better. Not that they choose not to know any better; they're simply incapable of it.Case in point:

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Many conservative voters are smart, though. So why are they incapable of learning any better?

 

[LionLooking]

'Why do Conservative voters again and again and again allow themselves to be screwed over by their leaders?'

I can't speak for the US, but the situation here in the UK is very similar.
Conservative governments are the norm, voted in by hordes of working class people.
The reason is that, rather than check out the parties' policies, the common man seems to go along with what the press say.
We have an overwhelmingly right-wing press over here and sheep seem happy to be led to their own slaughter.

 

[Enoch07]

Democrats are no different. Mindlessly devouring the lefts regressive policies. Refusing to admit to the corruption within their own parties politicians. All the while thinking they are superior in some way. It's a s**t worthy of its own reality tv series! LoLz

 

[Sunstone]

'Why do Conservative voters again and again and again allow themselves to be screwed over by their leaders?'

I can't speak for the US, but the situation here in the UK is very similar.
Conservative governments are the norm, voted in by hordes of working class people.
The reason is that, rather than check out the parties' policies, the common man seems to go along with what the press say.
We have an overwhelmingly right-wing press over here and sheep seem happy to be led to their own slaughter.

Interesting! I think the right wing media plays a huge role in fooling conservatives here in America, too.

 

[Skwim]

Many conservative voters are smart, though. So why are they incapable of learning any better?

My observation is that many conservative voters are intelligent, but very few are smart.

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[Sunstone]

Democrats are no different.

No different? I can believe some Democrats -- a relative few -- are no different, but you'll have to back up your statement with facts (i.e. with science) if you want it to credibly assert that most or all Democrats are no different.

You might be too young to know this, but 40 or 50 years ago, conservatives in general did not have this problem with being taken again and again for suckers. It seems (to me at least) to be a relatively new development. Something has changed, and I'd like to know why?

 

[Altfish]

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[idav]

I’ve noticed people leaning right politically who tend to prefer an authoritarian government. I can’t really grasp why on earth but they are getting what they want actually. Maybe some are just afraid of too much freedom but it seems that majority of these same folks don’t mind worshiping a god thats a complete not nice entity.

 

[Sunstone]

FOX NEWS

I think there's a lot to be said for your view.

 

[Sunstone]

I’ve noticed people leaning right politically who tend to prefer an authoritarian government. I can’t really grasp why on earth but they are getting what they want actually. Maybe some are just afraid of too much freedom but it seems that majority of these same folks don’t mind worshiping a god thats a complete not nice entity.

That seems to me quite insightful, Idav. There's a lot of science that backs up your notion that conservatives have become more authoritarian over the years. See, for instance, The Authoritarians.

 

[Enoch07]

No different? I can believe some Democrats -- a relative few -- are no different, but you'll have to back up your statement with facts (i.e. with science) if you want it to credibly assert that most or all Democrats are no different.

You might be too young to know this, but 40 or 50 years ago, conservatives in general did not have this problem with being taken again and again for suckers. It seems (to me at least) to be a relatively new development. Something has changed, and I'd like to know why?

I am not even going to bother. Because this would be the XXth thread where I would list articles and evidence etc of Democrat corruption. All for nothing because the next day it's like it never happened! LoLz

Honestly both parties should just consolidate into one. Ditch the donkey and elephant nonsense. Let's be more reflective of reality! I even have a new mascot lined up for it!

 

[Sunstone]

I am not even going to bother. Because this would be the XXth thread where I would list articles and evidence etc of Democrat corruption. All for nothing because the next day it's like it never happened! LoLz

Honestly both parties should just consolidate into one. Ditch the donkey and elephant nonsense. Let's be more reflective of reality! I even have a new mascot lined up for it!

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There are certainly corporate Democrats who infest the Party, and who are little better than Republicans when it comes to voting in the interests of the uber rich and wealthy, rather than the common person. I doubt they make up a majority of the rank and file, though.

 

[Enoch07]

There are certainly corporate Democrats who infest the Party, and who are little better than Republicans when it comes to voting in the interests of the uber rich and wealthy, rather than the common person. I doubt they make up a majority of the rank and file, though.

True but I see it like this.

The Republicans

Centrist->Conservative->Far Right->alt-Right->Neo-Nazis

The Democrats

Centrist->Liberals->Far Left->alt-Left->Communist

Note how the closer you get to the extremities the more authoritarian they become. This is commonly referred to as Horseshoe theory - Wikipedia. But in my case I can't tell a difference between the extreme left/right anymore. So it almost a full circle instead of a horseshoe. The Nazis and the Commies have more in common than they do differences.

 

[Altfish]

True but I see it like this.

The Republicans

Centrist->Conservative->Far Right->alt-Right->Neo-Nazis

The Democrats

Centrist->Liberals->Far Left->alt-Left->Communist

Note how the closer you get to the extremities the more authoritarian they become. This is commonly referred to as Horseshoe theory - Wikipedia. But in my case I can't tell a difference between the extreme left/right anymore. So it almost a full circle instead of a horseshoe. The Nazis and the Commies have more in common than they do differences.

I see the Democrats as to the right of the UK's Tory Party (Well the normal Tories, not the nut jobs), they are no longer left-wing, more's the shame

 

[Sunstone]

True but I see it like this.

The Republicans

Centrist->Conservative->Far Right->alt-Right->Neo-Nazis

The Democrats

Centrist->Liberals->Far Left->alt-Left->Communist

Note how the closer you get to the extremities the more authoritarian they become. This is commonly referred to as Horseshoe theory - Wikipedia. But in my case I can't tell a difference between the extreme left/right anymore. So it almost a full circle instead of a horseshoe. The Nazis and the Commies have more in common than they do differences.

Scientific studies are showing that over past few decades, Authoritarians have by and large migrated to the Republican Party where they are now concentrated. Previously, they were more or less evenly divided between the two major parties, but now they are mostly Republican. See Robert Altemeyer's The Authoritarians.

 

[Derek500]

True but I see it like this.

The Republicans

Centrist->Conservative->Far Right->alt-Right->Neo-Nazis

The Democrats

Centrist->Liberals->Far Left->alt-Left->Communist

Note how the closer you get to the extremities the more authoritarian they become. This is commonly referred to as Horseshoe theory - Wikipedia. But in my case I can't tell a difference between the extreme left/right anymore. So it almost a full circle instead of a horseshoe. The Nazis and the Commies have more in common than they do differences.

You do know that the official name for what was called the Nazi's was the National Socialist Democratic Labour Party (the acronym in German was NSDAP), don't you?

 

[Sunstone]

You do know that the official name for what was called the Nazi's was the National Socialist Democratic Labour Party (the acronym in German was NSDAP), don't you?

You do know Hitler didn't approve of his party's name and wished it had made no reference to socialism or democracy, don't you?

 

[Twilight Hue]

Typical lib thinking trickle-down is instantaneous. Instant gratification is the key focus of liberals. Everything's got to happen within the hour, or the policies no good or dosent work.

Conservatives are little bit more realistic about policy effects and are willing to be a bit more patient.