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Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by Nimos, Jun 19, 2019.

  1. leov

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  2. leov

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    Both? You sure that you WERE a Christian?
     
  3. shunyadragon

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    Are you sure anyone was or is a Christian?
     
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    Surely not the old "lets play equivocation
    with the word faith game".
     
  5. leov

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    Some people too eager to blame God....
     
  6. Bob the Unbeliever

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    And there it is... the hateful comment I was expecting.

    Ain't you the nice one... all Judgy and stuff.

    Oh, and No True Scotsman Logical Fallacy--

    I submit: How on earth do you know YOU are a christian now? By your own criteria? You are not... not really...
     
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    And some? Simply dismiss all the evil that god must be responsible for-- if, as they also claim, god is All Powerful and All Knowing.

    You keep ignoring that fact.
     
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    . . . and too many people eager to claim God, but many create God in their own image..
     
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  9. leov

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    Agree , I.g. demiurge
     
  10. shunyadragon

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    I realize tha many Christians believe that if some one leaves Christianity they were not truly Christian, but I lean heavily toward people's claim of belief as sincere in most cases.
     
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    I know the path, excepting altar call does not make one a Christian.
     
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    I avoid judging or questioning from the fallible human perspective whether anyone's claim is sincere or not.
     
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  13. leov

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    I avoid such thing also. Some people have no brakes and I'm in need to be offered them something...
     
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  14. Road Warrior

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    I agree IC is nonsense. I've said so before. Weren't you paying attention? Are you just angry and looking for a fight?
     
  15. Evangelicalhumanist

    Evangelicalhumanist "Truth" isn't a thing...

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    I would still call Galileo a "renaissance man," by the very nature of his thinking. Quite clearly, his thinking was not ordered along the lines of the Inquisition and the likes of Savonarola. These are the examplars of the kind of thinking that mark the end of the Renaissance, and let's be honest, these things aren't marked by nice, tidy edges. Sure, the Inquisition went to a lot of effort to shut minds down, but minds kept working anyway.

    Also, consider what need the Church had to shut down ideas in pure or practical mathematics that did NOT contradict what the Bible said...which is what Galileo was accused of. The fact is, however, he was guilty of exactly what he was accused of...while being correct at the same time, which means that the interpretation of the Church about what the Bible said was incorrect. I don't care that you don't like it, but it is what it is.
     
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    Evangelicalhumanist "Truth" isn't a thing...

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    Have you ever heard of intellectual curiosity? I can't afford university, and at my age would be out of place. This is free.
     
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    "I'm talking about claims concerning the supernatural. About claims that reach "outside" of our observable universe."

    Doesn't multi-universe reach outside our observable universe?
    Didn't you say in post 701 that multi-universe is worthy to explore?

    If they are outside of our observable universe, how are they worthy to explore or are you just picking and choosing to your likening?
     
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    Dude you're borderline to letting them drag you into their god, creation, supernatural arguement which they thrive on. Look around.
     
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    Agreed. Worse, some people put religious dogma over logic. Example, the Young Earth Creationists who take Genesis literally versus the years of science proving the Earth is far older than the YEC claim of 6000 years.
     
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    I enjoy conversing with the Bible thumpers and their opposites, the angry militant atheists. :D
     
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