Why do Americans Hate Democracy?

[Draka]

Please provide your evidence that blacks do not commit more crime. The statistics tell a different story. Show the evidence to support your claim that the reason blacks appear to commit more crime is simply because they get arrested more.

Perhaps they get arrested more because they commit more crime.

Thinking these facts are a result of racism is in my opinion showing a significant mental deficit. But your claim does warrant evidential support.

The "statistics" prove otherwise because of racism. This has been proven time and time again. There have been so many social experiments done that prove that this is the case, plus you could just watch the news. It really isn't that blacks commit more crimes, it is because people (due to racial stereotypes) assume blacks to commit more crimes and assume a black person to be committing a crime even when they aren't and will even overlook a white person committing the very same crime. There have been many video social experiment set ups which prove this the case.

Though what any of this has to do with you being able to live by your own religious values in this country I have no idea at all. No one is preventing you from living by your own religious morals and convictions. No one. The only thing that anyone is preventing you from doing is requiring others to live by your personal religious morals and convictions. That, you simply have no right to do. And that, seems to be the crux of the issue.

 

[Iti oj]

The "statistics" prove otherwise because of racism. This has been proven time and time again. There have been so many social experiments done that prove that this is the case, plus you could just watch the news. It really isn't that blacks commit more crimes, it is because people (due to racial stereotypes) assume blacks to commit more crimes and assume a black person to be committing a crime even when they aren't and will even overlook a white person committing the very same crime. There have been many video social experiment set ups which prove this the case.

Though what any of this has to do with you being able to live by your own religious values in this country I have no idea at all. No one is preventing you from living by your own religious morals and convictions. No one. The only thing that anyone is preventing you from doing is requiring others to live by your personal religious morals and convictions. That, you simply have no right to do. And that, seems to be the crux of the issue.

Well it sounds like he is arguing for natural determinism. Which is a self defeating argument for himself

 

[Sonofason]

OK so no free will and no God. Okay

You are free to draw whatever conclusions you like. Some people just aren't capable of drawing the correct conclusions.

 

[Sonofason]

The "statistics" prove otherwise because of racism. This has been proven time and time again. There have been so many social experiments done that prove that this is the case, plus you could just watch the news. It really isn't that blacks commit more crimes, it is because people (due to racial stereotypes) assume blacks to commit more crimes and assume a black person to be committing a crime even when they aren't and will even overlook a white person committing the very same crime. There have been many video social experiment set ups which prove this the case.

Though what any of this has to do with you being able to live by your own religious values in this country I have no idea at all. No one is preventing you from living by your own religious morals and convictions. No one. The only thing that anyone is preventing you from doing is requiring others to live by your personal religious morals and convictions. That, you simply have no right to do. And that, seems to be the crux of the issue.

Does ISIS have the right to require others to live by their personal religious morals and convictions? I'm sorry, to inform you, but one has the right to do whatever he is capable of doing, regardless the means that enable his capabilities.

 

[Sonofason]

The "statistics" prove otherwise because of racism. This has been proven time and time again. There have been so many social experiments done that prove that this is the case, plus you could just watch the news. It really isn't that blacks commit more crimes, it is because people (due to racial stereotypes) assume blacks to commit more crimes and assume a black person to be committing a crime even when they aren't and will even overlook a white person committing the very same crime. There have been many video social experiment set ups which prove this the case.

Though what any of this has to do with you being able to live by your own religious values in this country I have no idea at all. No one is preventing you from living by your own religious morals and convictions. No one. The only thing that anyone is preventing you from doing is requiring others to live by your personal religious morals and convictions. That, you simply have no right to do. And that, seems to be the crux of the issue.

You telling me that statistics prove otherwise is meaningless and pointless unless you show evidence to support your belief, which of course, you have not done.

 

[Draka]

Does ISIS have the right to require others to live by their personal religious morals and convictions? I'm sorry, to inform you, but one has the right to do whatever he is capable of doing, regardless the means that enable his capabilities.

Spoken like a true terrorist.

 

[Sonofason]

Spoken like a true terrorist.

You are free to believe as you see fit.

While I am certainly no terrorist, I say and do what I please.

 

[Sonofason]

Spoken like a true terrorist.

It is interesting what people will say when they are defeated in debate.

 

[Iti oj]

You are free to draw whatever conclusions you like. Some people just aren't capable of drawing the correct conclusions.

Your trying to have your cake and eat it too.

 

[Iti oj]

It is interesting what people will say when they are defeated in debate.

Its funny what people ignore

 

[Sonofason]

Its funny what people ignore

Yes, some people, like you, ignore the facts. Other people, like me, tend to acknowledge the facts.

 

[Iti oj]

Yes, some people, like you, ignore the facts. Other people, like me, tend to acknowledge the facts.

Natural determinism or free will?

 

[Sonofason]

Natural determinism or free will?

Natural determinism and free will are both at play in my opinion.

 

[Iti oj]

Natural determinism and free will are both at play in my opinion.

The ideas are contradictory.

 

[Sonofason]

The ideas are contradictory.

Much in life is contradictory.

We discover ways to kill bacteria, only to make the bacteria more resilient. We develop new ways to kill the bacteria, and they become even more resilient. By helping human beings survive disease and sickness, we ensure our inevitable destruction by disease and sickness.

That may not be a precise understanding of contradictory, but our actions are having contradictory results.

 

[Iti oj]

Much in life is contradictory.

We discover ways to kill bacteria, only to make the bacteria more resilient. We develop new ways to kill the bacteria, and they become even more resilient. By helping human beings survive disease and sickness, we ensure our inevitable destruction by disease and sickness.

That may not be a precise understanding of contradictory, but our actions are having contradictory results.

Which isn't the same kind of contradiction, like you said, and there is a mechanism that explains you're example
.

 

[Sonofason]

Which isn't the same kind of contradiction, like you said, and there is a mechanism that explains you're example
.

What is the name of this mechanism that you are referring to?

 

[Iti oj]

What is the name of this mechanism that you are referring to?

Evolution. Adaption.

 

[Sonofason]

Evolution. Adaption.

No, no, it is not evolution. It could be adaptation however.

 

[Iti oj]

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No, no, it is not evolution. It could be adaptation however.

Either way you can't have both natural determinism and free will.
But we're off topic