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Why didn't we intervene in Syria ?
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Kooky
Freedom from Sanity
Where do you get the idea from that the US stayed neutral in the Syrian civil war? The Democratic and pro-Saudi forces received considerable support by the US, both overt and clandestine, and US aircraft flew missions over Syrian airspace against both the Syrian Airforce and ISIS.
The US did leave the formerly allied Rojava state hung out to dry so Turkey could waltz in and demolish the last free Kurdish territory in the region, but to be fair, leaving Kurdish allies in the cold has a long and proud tradition among Western forces.
The US did leave the formerly allied Rojava state hung out to dry so Turkey could waltz in and demolish the last free Kurdish territory in the region, but to be fair, leaving Kurdish allies in the cold has a long and proud tradition among Western forces.
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Heyo
Veteran Member
Yes, it is.
Don't get me wrong, killing is bad and the sooner Assad leaves office, which way ever, the better. But Syria is a sovereign country and the US is, contrary to the belief of many US politicians, not the world police. And whenever the US did intervene it was 1. out of self interest and 2. a disaster.
exchemist
Veteran Member
It is always stupid to think in terms of "taking out" "bad guys". Real life is not a video game.
You need a very clear idea of what will be put in their place and you need the staying power to see that through. If you don't have both, AND with a good chunk of world opinion behind you, you have no business "taking out" any regime. Winning a war is far easier than winning the subsequent peace.
The Iraq experience illustrates that perfectly. Saddam was evil, sure. But how many hundreds of thousands have died as a result of the Iraq invasion? The invaders had no clue what to do after Saddam's fall and the chaos there continues to this day. That was almost 20 years ago now.
People need to think long and hard before doing this sort of thing again.
Secret Chief
nirvana is samsara
American governments
The Syrians do not pay taxes to the USA, and they don't vote here. Therefore we would be (and partially were) imposing a colonial influence. Its not our country. Its not even an ally. The real question is why haven't we stopped intervening? This is exactly the kind of thing our own Declaration of Independence decries: foreign power, patronistic intervention.
Our military actions in a foreign country can only rarely be purely benevolent, because there are of logistics involved, a lot of people involved. We don't always know who is doing what. When we go into another country we are going to make mistakes. Mistakes are always made. We can't just go in on a hunch that something is not right or because some people selected the wrong leader.
This country, if it goes into another country militarily, needs to be honest. We go in to protect our own interests whether that be democracy or money or whatever. We need to say this in public "We're going in, in spite of the fact that our constitution specifies the military is only for defense, and we're going in to accomplish XYZ colonial style goals." This other stuff they say is a lie. "Weapons of mass destruction could eventually affect us!" or "Wow that leader is just nuts and so mean to his people!" Its not credible. We aren't credible when we do it.
Nimos
Well-Known Member
No, but there is not a lot of oil in Syria, so it's not worth it.
exchemist
Veteran Member
And British, ouch.
Jeremiah Ames
Well-Known Member
i am wondering if it’s right to interfere in things that are clearly not our business
both individually and as a nation
Secret Chief
nirvana is samsara
Ah yes, the poodle.And British, ouch.
exchemist
Veteran Member
Proudly standing, nose to arse, I mean shoulder to shoulder,.......
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
The irony when you view domestic policy.
We did intervene. We gave lots of weapons and money to Daesh. Lol. Same as happened with the Libyan travestry under Obama (aka Obomba), Hillary (aka Killery and Ms. "We came, we saw, he died" *evil cackle*) and the corrupt UN and NATO. "Moderate rebels", remember?
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Kooky
Freedom from Sanity
And not to forget, Trump inaugurated his foreign policy in the region with a wave of missile and drone attacks against anti-Saudi factions in Syria and Yemen.We did intervene. We gave lots of weapons and money to Daesh. Lol. Same as happened with the Libyan travestry under Obama (aka Obomba), Hillary (aka Killery and Ms. "We came, we saw, he died" *evil cackle*) and the corrupt UN and NATO. "Moderate rebels", remember?