Why Didn't God Leave Huge Quantities of Secular Evidence For Jesus?

[Skywalker]

“Nuh-uh” isn’t a sufficient rebuttal.

Yes and of course. There is always a need for those called to speak truth.

The prophets in the Old Testament gave warnings to repent they didn't just give prophecies about the future like Isaiah did.

 

[Subduction Zone]

<He thinks Jesus had to die for our sins>

And he cannot justify that claim.

 

[Skywalker]

Is God omnipotent? Is he omniscienct?

God is both omnipotent and omniscient. There is no reason he can't be both. Both are consistent with a self existing God.

 

[sojourner]

The prophets in the Old Testament gave warnings to repent they didn't just give prophecies about the future like Isaiah did.

You really have no grasp of the literature.

 

[Skywalker]

Nope, he did not. That is why the Jews rejected him. Too bad that you cannot find a valid source that supports you.

Jesus fulfilled the prophecy of having a forerunner, being rejected by Israel, and being the Messiah and God. Malachi is written as God saying that the Messiah would prepare a way for him.

 

[Skywalker]

You really have no grasp of the literature.

Prophets were people who spoke for God not just people who told the future.

 

[Skywalker]

Why not?

Again you are claiming that your God is not omnipotent or omniscient and that he is immoral to boot. Why worship such a failed God?

Jesus being an archangel is an inconsistent belief with Jesus being God.

 

[Skywalker]

<He thinks Jesus had to die for our sins>

Jesus had to be God to die for our sins. That is what is being discussed, not if the death of Jesus was needed to forgive us of sin.

 

[Skywalker]

And he cannot justify that claim.

When people commit crimes, unless they are pardoned, they go to jail.

 

[rational experiences]

<He thinks Jesus had to die for our sins>

A confess of Sion.

Scientists his brothers in temple pyramid nuclear removed origin sin.

Satan.

O earth history mass burning is space.

Natural history.

Burning and cold space equalled Satan.

Both bodies cooled.

Space irradiating cooled.
O body earth angel Satan cooled sealed became God seal.

We stand upon God.

Basic.

Satan was original sin.

Remove it mass. God gets removed life safety. Satan your evil science power even disappeared.

Man did not need to die because of his science brother.

When science tries to claim humans began as spirit Satan. Why it occurred.

His brother made that quote about humans for his life was still living. If water mass did not lift off the ground we all would have died.

Why science is a hypocrite.

False maths prophets.

Jesus taught science what a liar it is via human suffering.

You never invented life.

We honoured their lives for teaching us how evil human choice is.

 

[SeekingAllTruth]

You were a human before.
You were still a human after.

Foundation is stone. God.

Moses were a human before mutated into ape man. Exodus DNA.

Jesus was a sickness like ebola.

Basic information if you aren't seeking God's powers.

I've never thought of it in that way before.

 

[SeekingAllTruth]

There are records of accurate early gospels. The Magdelan fragments don't have conflicting dates and guesswork and we know their authors. They were written at earlier dates than other gospels and their historical details agree with the Bible writers calling Jesus, God. https://breakpoint.org/a-fictional-messiah/

Wiki:

Colin Roberts published the [Magdelan] manuscript and gave it a dating of ca. 200, which was confirmed by three other leading papyrologists: Harold Bell, T. C. Skeat and E. G. Turner. Philip Comfort and David Barret in their book Text of the Earliest NT Greek Manuscripts argue for a more general date of 150–175 for the manuscript, and also for P4 and P67, which they argue came from the same codex. Comfort and Barret also show that this P4/64/67 has affinities with a number of the late 2nd century papyri.

Magdalen papyrus - Wikipedia

You haven't a case, skywalker.

 

[Batya]

I have a feeling that even if God had left a huge amount of secular evidence for Jesus, lots of people would still come up with reasons not to believe him. It was human logic that caused man's rejection of God in the first place.

 

[sojourner]

Prophets were people who spoke for God not just people who told the future.

That’s what I said. Why are you arguing with me?

 

[rational experiences]

Father our baby life teacher taught us.

Human.

A baby grows to become a man father invents science about God.

Quotes I am the father of God....
Science concepts.

No human....no stories.
No human sex we would all age die...no humans.

We live on planet God the teaching.

Teaching....no man is God as you are a man.

Science I want to as a man own the powers of God.

Why science self combusted our life...s long time ago. Why atmospheric conditions can still cause it.

Titled I am a satanist.

The men who say I am God are the same men who say I am Satan.

You are not O planet science.

 

[sojourner]

Jesus had to be God to die for our sins. That is what is being discussed, not if the death of Jesus was needed to forgive us of sin.

Substitutionary Atonement is not the only (or best) theological construction of salvation.

 

[sojourner]

When people commit crimes, unless they are pardoned, they go to jail.

1) Sin has little to do with being criminal
2) God’s justice is not modeled on our penal system

 

[rational experiences]

That’s what I said. Why are you arguing with me?

Man is a human does not speak for God.

Machine from God stone mass.
Reaction taken from same God mass stone. Stone does not speak humans do.

Words talk about natural do not own natural. Natural owns itself.

O maths false prophet used to change God by machine forced.

Maths false prophet changed what natural God was.

 

[Subduction Zone]

God is both omnipotent and omniscient. There is no reason he can't be both. Both are consistent with a self existing God.

Please make up your mind. You keep saying that he is not.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Jesus being an archangel is an inconsistent belief with Jesus being God.

So what? So is the belief that he is a hamster. All of them appear to be equally true.

 

[Subduction Zone]

When people commit crimes, unless they are pardoned, they go to jail.

So what? You keep making incomplete arguments as if you made a point. The problem is that you believe God to be evil. He does not mete out appropriate punishments.