Why did the Arabs reject the 1937 Peel Plan?

[Flankerl]

Nice circlejerk going on with the typical lies of some weird Jewish heaven that existed in the Islamic world.
It was probably somewhere between the Allahdad and the Farhud.

There is even a supposed Genocide mentioned.

 

[Wu Wei]

Because they were promised the entire thing by the British for their participation, on the British side in WW 1... they were never told about any partition, But then the British promised a lot of things to a lot of folks in the Middle east during WW 1 that they never kept

 

[sooda]

Because they were promised the entire thing by the British for their participation, on the British side in WW 1... they were never told about any partition, But then the British promised a lot of things to a lot of folks in the Middle east during WW 1 that they never kept

Yes... like Sykes Picot agreement Palestine in 1916.. They did get the Arabs to help them drive out the Ottoman Turks.. and then betrayed them.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

Germany and Italy were not nation states until the 1800s. People still LIVED there.

True; but before that they had their own identities as kingdoms & sovereign entities. So has Israel, at one point, even if it was for a few hundred years. Its identity is couched in historicity. Palestine has never had such an identity.

Only able-bodied men paid jizya in exemption to military service. Jizya was LESS Tax than Muslims paid .. Muslims paid Zakat.

Jizya was a tax levelled against non-Muslims because they were non-Muslims. In addition to paying of the jizya, dhimmis were denied certain rights granted to Muslims. They were second-class citizens. Jizya was not always less than the zakat; it really depended on the government of an area at any given time. The jizya is wrong in principle because it is religious-based discrimination.

The Jewish terror gangs were colonials. Are you making excuses for killing British peacekeepers?

No. I'm drawing attention to the double standard that fighting colonialism seems to be virtuous only if you're a Muslim.

Jews suffered in Europe NOT in the Arab world so why make them pay for the Holocaust?

So the Damascus incident never happened? Do you think the Arabs were best of friends to the Jews up until the Jews started wanting their own country?

If not for Zionism Arab Jews would still be living all over the Arab world where there were no progroms.

Wow. If it hadn't been for the Israelis not rolling over and allowing themselves to be slaughtered, the Arabs of several countries wouldn't have been so collectively outraged that they expelled their Jewish populations and stole their possessions?

Talk about blaming the victim. Can you hear yourself?

The only ones who can be reasonably blamed for anti-Semitic pogroms are those who choose to take part in them.

The Trail of Tears is a disgusting episode in US history and it too was simply about theft.. They believed gold had been discovered in the Cherokee Nation land. Is that your justification for the Nakba?

No; I'm drawing a parallel between the forced expulsion of Jews from the likes of Iraq & Algeria, and the forced expulsion of the Cherokee from their ancestral lands.

I'm not trying to compare this to the 'catastrophe' that accompanied Israel clearing an irredeemably hostile population from within its borders, nor the part of that population that voluntarily left so the allied armies could do a more thorough job of driving the Jews into the sea. There is no comparison.

It's also worth pointing out that the 'Nakba' was preceded by the collapse of the Arab Palestinian economy brought on by the conflict they started.

Most Palestinians are descended from Jewish farmers who didn't leave Palestine. They stayed behind to farm, repair the Roman terraces and aqueducts, tend the 500 year old olive trees and protect the holy places of the Patriarchs.

Source please.

The Atlantic Monthly

July 1920

Zionist Aspirations in Palestine

by Anstruther Mackay

Zionist Aspirations in Palestine - 20.07

If there is ever to be peace in the Middle East, the Jewish people have to tell the truth.

In 1920 the Jews of Southeastern Europe are, almost to a man, Bolsheviki. Europe and America cannot allow the possibility of a homogeneous Bolshevist state in Palestine, whence the propagandists would be in an excellent position to preach their doctrines throughout Asia, Africa, and the Mediterranean coasts.

This source was written during the Russian Civil War, when Western European countries intervened to stop the rise of the nascent Soviet Union with its doctrine of anti-imperialism. Anti-socialist hysteria was growing in the imperial powers during this time and would not dissipate for decades to come thanks to the onset of the Cold War.

Everything that was undesirable would have had the label 'bolshevik' slapped on it as it would seem to have been the buzzword of the time; much like 'fascist' is used these days.

Notice that she said they aren't "Gazans" because there is no country called GAZA.. These refugees are NON People.

First off, I'm male. Second off, I did not say nor imply the refugees are non-people. I'm merely pointing out that Gaza is not a nationality because it is a city; or the region around a city. That's like saying because I live near Glasgow any children I have will be Glaswegians, even if they are born in Aberdeen.

 

[sooda]

True; but before that they had their own identities as kingdoms & sovereign entities. So has Israel, at one point, even if it was for a few hundred years. Its identity is couched in historicity. Palestine has never had such an identity.




Jizya was a tax levelled against non-Muslims because they were non-Muslims. In addition to paying of the jizya, dhimmis were denied certain rights granted to Muslims. They were second-class citizens. Jizya was not always less than the zakat; it really depended on the government of an area at any given time. The jizya is wrong in principle because it is religious-based discrimination.




No. I'm drawing attention to the double standard that fighting colonialism seems to be virtuous only if you're a Muslim.




So the Damascus incident never happened? Do you think the Arabs were best of friends to the Jews up until the Jews started wanting their own country?




Wow. If it hadn't been for the Israelis not rolling over and allowing themselves to be slaughtered, the Arabs of several countries wouldn't have been so collectively outraged that they expelled their Jewish populations and stole their possessions?

Talk about blaming the victim. Can you hear yourself?

The only ones who can be reasonably blamed for anti-Semitic pogroms are those who choose to take part in them.




No; I'm drawing a parallel between the forced expulsion of Jews from the likes of Iraq & Algeria, and the forced expulsion of the Cherokee from their ancestral lands.

I'm not trying to compare this to the 'catastrophe' that accompanied Israel clearing an irredeemably hostile population from within its borders, nor the part of that population that voluntarily left so the allied armies could do a more thorough job of driving the Jews into the sea. There is no comparison.

It's also worth pointing out that the 'Nakba' was preceded by the collapse of the Arab Palestinian economy brought on by the conflict they started.




Source please.




This source was written during the Russian Civil War, when Western European countries intervened to stop the rise of the nascent Soviet Union with its doctrine of anti-imperialism. Anti-socialist hysteria was growing in the imperial powers during this time and would not dissipate for decades to come thanks to the onset of the Cold War.

Everything that was undesirable would have had the label 'bolshevik' slapped on it as it would seem to have been the buzzword of the time; much like 'fascist' is used these days.




First off, I'm male. Second off, I did not say nor imply the refugees are non-people. I'm merely pointing out that Gaza is not a nationality because it is a city; or the region around a city. That's like saying because I live near Glasgow any children I have will be Glaswegians, even if they are born in Aberdeen.

Zionists should pay reparations to all the Jews that left the Arab world and to all the refugees from Palestine.

 

[Flankerl]

Hahaha I love it.

"The Jews had to leave their homes under duress, threat of violence and death", "Well it's their bloody fault!"

 

[sooda]

Zionists should pay reparations to all the Jews that left the Arab world and to all the refugees from Palestine.

They left in 1948, 1956, 1967 and 1973,,, Do those dates mean anything to you?