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Featured Why call the great mystery 'God'?

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by Unfathomable Tao, Jun 28, 2016.

  1. Twilight Hue

    Twilight Hue The gentle embrace of twilight has become my guide

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    I doubt thats our call.
     
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    Yes, I understand what an atheist is, thanks.
     
  3. metis

    metis aged ecumenical anthropologist

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    Well said, imo, and I don't have a problem with the word "mystery" since there's far more that we don't know than what we do know. As Confucius supposedly said, the more you know, the more you know you really don't know.
     
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  4. Twilight Hue

    Twilight Hue The gentle embrace of twilight has become my guide

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    It was more by which such a question for such an answer, is unattainable weither it be athiest or thiest.
     
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    With G-d, everything is possible.
     
  6. Twilight Hue

    Twilight Hue The gentle embrace of twilight has become my guide

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    Yes. Until it's over of course. ;0)
     
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  7. Lyndon

    Lyndon "Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
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    I think the Tao is a better description of what God really is than the Bible, whether you want to call it Tao or God, doesn't really make any difference, but in my interpretation, the Tao is a Theos, not the God of anger portrayed in the Bible, but a Theos nonetheless.
     
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  8. Rick O'Shez

    Rick O'Shez Irishman bouncing off walls

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    I think that introducing any of these words created more problems than it solves, the introduction of more mental baggage, taking us further away from the direct experience.
     
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    Riverwolf Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
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    Quite a simple story for such a long book.

    And yet the single letter 道 is anything but simple. Just like the Dao De Jing. It's not a lawbook; it's more of a book of meditations and reflections (at least that's how I perceive it.)

    In any case, the yin/yang dichotomy didn't originate in the Dao De Jing, it's part of the indigenous philosophies of China.
     
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  10. The_Fisher_King

    The_Fisher_King Trying to bring myself ever closer to Allah
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    Absolutely everything? Can God destroy Herself?
     
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    This question has no meaning. G-d's existence precedes and transcends concepts. Can G-d apple?
     
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    So here's what the Dao De Jing is about:
    it's more of a book of meditations and reflections
    The end.
     
  13. LuisDantas

    LuisDantas Aura of atheification
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    One has to ask what a Taoist would say, though.
     
  14. Unfathomable Tao

    Unfathomable Tao Student of the Way

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    How very fascinating. Really, I mean it!
     
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    Unfathomable Tao Student of the Way

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    I think it would be considered too defined for most philosophical Taoists like myself to say the Tao was an intelligent process of a sort. It is what it is. Tao is really a word Lao-tzu used for this ultimately unfathomable underlying principle is all. That's my perspective anyway. Traditional and theistic Taoists may have a different understanding. The Tao may be intelligent, but I wouldn't want to say so.
     
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    Unfathomable Tao Student of the Way

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    I don't deny it can maybe be approached theistically, just as I said in another response- I wonder how useful it is to do it.
     
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    Unfathomable Tao Student of the Way

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    I always find this an interesting idea or approach to the matter, and I probably partly agree, but of those you listed- Buddha-nature is probably the closest to Tao in being very vague and fluid. Buddha-nature is usually very mysterious and unable to be defined. Many say it is the fundamental nature, similarly to what some say of the Tao. I find the similarities between Buddhism and Taoism so interesting I can't help thinking often- surely these are sister worldviews if any are.
     
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  18. Unfathomable Tao

    Unfathomable Tao Student of the Way

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    Oh all I meant by my statement Rick is its good we don't try to define the Tao. Many Taoists would say Tao is a word we call the unnameable by and nothing more. Its very subtle and very elusive.
     
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    Unfathomable Tao Student of the Way

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    Well Luis some Taoists would say we are atheists because we don't see the Tao as a deity, and we find deity concepts ultimately not useful for us, much like many atheists I'd think. I would guess Luis you approach Buddhism similarly? Some Taoists, like some Buddhists, believe in deities that aren't really like a monotheistic entity. More like lifeforms trapped in Samsara themselves, as it were. That is to say, since I don't hold to Samsara- that these beings would be like ETs of a sort, bound by natural limits and laws. I would ask Epicurus's old question about calling any such entity a god, but that's only my answer.
     
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    metis aged ecumenical anthropologist

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    I really don't know what "God really is", but I have a sneaking suspicion that Spinoza could be right when he used "Nature" as a substitute name for "God". And then Einstein said he believed in "Spinoza's God", so I tend to think that he, Spinoza, and I are pretty much on an equal footing. :rolleyes:
     
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