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Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by james dixon, Nov 4, 2018.

  1. james dixon

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    As I see it, Jesus was not only preaching the bad things of old, he was also preaching redemption. One can be saved; just abide by His instructions, follow His commandments and peace will be your reward.

    God’s Chosen People
    I have a personal attachment to the Old Testament and the verses contained therein. This includes the verses where the Lord talked directly to the Israelite people. In this one-way discussion the Lord laid out directives (commandments) for them to follow and the blessing they would get if they followed His suggestions. I took these directives and compared them to historical events. Personally, I would like to see the Israeli people change their ways by embracing the stranger (Palestinian) and treat them as one of their own, just as the Lord instructed them to do. I truly believe this “example” would create a wave of peace across the middle east.

    In closing I want the Israeli’s to embrace the Palestinians as one of their own, dismantle the illegal settlements and change the name of their country from “Israel” to “Palestine”.

    I believe God is now judging them for the last time. If they do not ask God for forgiveness and repent for their past deeds; then all will be lost.

    I need your help either by helping me or by correction my misguided view of them.

    Any suggestions or comments are welcome whether pro or con.
     
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    I believe you have never read the prophets, wherein G-d says he will never abandon Israel.
     
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  3. james dixon

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    The father never abandons His children, even when they are lost. Nothing ends until it ends. There is always hope
     
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    God does not abandon His children.

    WHY THEY WERE CHOSEN

    (Deu 7:6 KJV) For thou art a holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.

    (Deu 7:7 KJV) The LORD did not set his love upon you, nor choose you, because ye were more in number than any people; for ye were the fewest of all people:

    (Deu 7:8 KJV) But because the LORD loved you, and because he would keep the oath which he had sworn unto your fathers, hath the LORD brought you out with a mighty hand, and redeemed you out of the house of bondmen, from the hand of Pharaoh King of Egypt.

    (Deu 7:12 KJV) Wherefore it shall come to pass, if ye hearken to these judgments, and keep, and do them, that the LORD thy God shall keep unto thee the covenant and the mercy which he swore unto thy fathers:

    The above is one path & here is another----

    Ezekiel

    1 And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,

    2 Son of man, set thy face toward Jerusalem, and drop thy word toward the holy places, and prophesy against the land of Israel,

    3 And say to the land of Israel, Thus saith the LORD; Behold, I am against thee, and will draw forth my sword out of his sheath, and will cut off from thee the righteous and the wicked.

    4 Seeing then that I will cut off from thee the righteous and the wicked, therefore shall my sword go forth out of his sheath against all flesh from the south to the north:

    7 And it shall be, when they say unto thee, Wherefore sighest thou? that thou shalt answer, For the tidings; because it cometh: and every heart shall melt, and all hands shall be feeble, and every spirit shall faint, and all knees shall be weak as water: behold, it cometh, and shall be brought to pass, saith the Lord GOD.

    9 Son of man, prophesy, and say, Thus saith the LORD; Say, A sword, a sword is sharpened, and also furbished:

    12 Cry and howl, son of man: for it shall be upon my people, it shall be upon all the princes of Israel: terrors by reason of the sword shall be upon my people: smite therefore upon thy thigh.

    13 Because it is a trial, and what if the sword contemn even the rod? it shall be no more, saith the Lord GOD.

    17 I will also smite mine hands together, and I will cause my fury to rest: I the LORD have said it.

    20 Appoint a way, that the sword may come to Rabbath of the Ammonites, and to Judah in Jerusalem the defenced.

    24 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Because ye have made your iniquity to be remembered, in that your transgressions are discovered, so that in all your doings your sins do appear; because, I say, that ye are come to remembrance, ye shall be taken with the hand.

    25 And thou, profane wicked prince of Israel, whose day is come, when iniquity shall have an end,

    27 I will overturn, overturn, overturn, it: and it shall be no more, until he come whose right it is; and I will give it him.

    29 Whiles they see vanity unto thee, whiles they divine a lie unto thee, to bring thee upon the necks of them that are slain, of the wicked, whose day is come, when their iniquity shall have an end.

    30 Shall I cause it to return into his sheath? I will judge thee in the place where thou wast created, in the land of thy nativity.

    31 And I will pour out mine indignation upon thee, I will blow against thee in the fire of my wrath, and deliver thee into the hand of brutish men, and skilful to destroy.

    32 Thou shalt be for fuel to the fire; thy blood shall be in the midst of the land; thou shalt be no more remembered: for I the LORD have spoken it.

    The question of the day is which path they will take-?
     
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    To get a big old laugh or two !
     
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    He let jesus die, no?
     
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  7. james dixon

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    Abandoned, No. Jesus is with God right now
    As I see it :)-
     
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    If he's judging, like as a test, why give people different types of manuals? Or are those of us with a more difficult game rewarded better than those who just have everything made out for them...
     
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  9. james dixon

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    Ok, I'll ask again---
    Why are you here-?
     
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    Because
     
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    You ask that question but the thrust of your OP is about Israel, Jesus and God and not about the fundamental meaning and purpose of life question.
     
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  13. james dixon

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    Because you chose to and that as I see it; was a good choice

    Thanks for the answer
    May you and yours live long and prosper for all time to come

    gotta go

    bye :)-
     
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    And you still fail to answer the question
     
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    Unveiled Artist Shrugs. I tried.

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    To be born. To live. To age. To die.
    Nature bought me into existence and it will take me out of it. That's why I'm here. To accept it by gratitude and living well.

    Your title of your thread is general yet your OP is religious. Are you asking why are we here in general or asking christians?
     
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    Unveiled Artist Shrugs. I tried.

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    Lamentations 5:20
    Why do you always forget us? Why do you forsake us so long?

    (Sounds like someone feels abandoned.)

    Joshua 5:6
    For the people of Israel walked forty years in the wilderness, until all the nation, the men of war who came out of Egypt, perished, because they did not obey the voice of the Lord; the Lord swore to them that he would not let them see the land that the Lord had sworn to their fathers to give to us, a land flowing with milk and honey.

    (God promises them a promised land and then kills them all off.)

    Deuteronomy 31:17
    Then my anger will be kindled against them in that day, and I will forsake them and hide my face from them, and they will be devoured. And many evils and troubles will come upon them, so that they will say in that day, ‘Have not these evils come upon us because our God is not among us?’

    (God: I will never forsake My people unless I feel like it.)

    Given that heaven is Jesus' original homeland, letting him be born on earth would've been abandoning him, as Satan supposedly rules Earth, not God, because God is omnipotent and can easily lose a planet to a grouchy angel.

    You see, when a man and a woman ...
     
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    Jeremiah 31:35-36

    Thus says the Lord, Who gives the sun for light by day and the fixed order of the moon and the stars for light by night, Who stirs up the sea so that its waves roar – the Lord of hosts is His name: If this fixed order were ever to cease from My presence, says the Lord, then also the offspring of Israel would cease to be a nation before Me forever.
    Thus says the Lord: If the heavens above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth below can be explored, then I will reject all the offspring of Israel because of all they have done.


    Jeremiah 51:5
    For Israel and Judah have not been forsaken by their God, the LORD of hosts, but the land of the Chaldeans is full of guilt against the Holy One of Israel.

    Jeremiah 31:37

    Can you measure the heavens?
    Can you explore
    the depths of the earth?
    That’s how hard it would be
    for me to reject Israel forever,
    even though they have sinned.
    I, the Lord, have spoken.

    Isaiah 54:8-10
    “With a little wrath I hid My face from you for a moment; but with everlasting kindness I will have mercy on you,” says the Lord, your Redeemer. “This is like the waters of Noah to Me; for as I have sworn that the waters of Noah would no longer cover the earth, so have I sworn that I would not be angry with you, nor rebuke you. The mountains shall depart and the hills be removed, but My kindness shall not depart from you, nor shall My covenant of peace be removed,” says the Lord, Who has mercy on you.
     
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