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Featured Why are some atheists so obsessed with "imminent death"?

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by Sirona, Jan 24, 2020.

  1. Sirona

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    Apparently, like any other philosophy, some atheists may be convinced that their philosophy is superior to other philosophies. I‘ve noticed a tendency in certain atheist views to be focused on large or cosmic catastrophes that are mostly far beyond our control and always mean our total annihilation. Like a gamma ray burst hitting our planet and transforming our atmosphere into mostly nitrogen dioxide. Or the activity of dark matter or some sub-atomic particles ripping our universe apart or making it collapse, destroying all matter in this process. Or the hysteria about various diseases in far away countries with actually very low mortality rates. What is the good in focusing on catastrophes you mostly cannot prevent? The only effect I see is setting people into permanent panic mode. And what is the solution to this panic mode? Voidism? Consuming more and more?

    I was raised with a focus on atheist philosophy but I’ve come to the conclusion that a theism which focuses on reinforcing things like trust and community spirit may be a healthier alternative to an atheistically motivated permanent focus on cataclysms.

    Please discuss.
     
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  2. Mestemia

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    Perhaps it is a local thing?
    I have not run into any of the atheists described in your OP.
    I have encountered numerous theists who concentrate on the end of the world in an attempt to sell their beliefs to others.
     
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  3. Darkforbid

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    Because it's a nihilist empty philosophy and they're trying to project this hopeless emptiness onto the rest of society
     
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    Theism seems to think the exists a God with a plan watching out for the human race. I don't focus on it however I don't think there is a guaranteed survival of the human race. The earth has gone through a number of life altering catastrophes. More species have gone extinct than survived. The odds are against our survival. That's nothing to panic about. That's just a mater of fact.
     
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    I am not an atheist, and I do not agree with the rejection of positive possibilities based on nothing. But I have not noticed any atheists dwelling on catastrophic possibilities, as you suggest. What I notice is a sad lack of empathy and understanding of the human condition, and appreciation for the imaginative ways we humans cope with it. Atheists seem to generally be people who have become stuck in their own egotistical presumptions about "objective reality" and "evidence", as if these somehow rendered imagination insignificant.
     
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    2 billion Christians. Many believe in Armageddon, Hell, sin. Maybe these Atheists used to be Christians, who took this "Hellish" part with them
     
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  7. Israel Khan

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    People believing that their ideas are superior to others is a trait not limited to theism. It is pretty much a human trait. Its like the blood feud between Trekkies and Star Wars fans.

    Regarding theism, i think theism will have its bad points too. The followers would have to believe in something that they might not see as factually true. If you are thinking of an ideaology based on certain principles then that would be a better option. But there are modern movements which focus a lot on "cataclysm" themselves and in their cases that cataclysm is the End Times and Apocalypse in which the evil are destroyed and the righteous saved.
     
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  8. Mock Turtle

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    This is a laugh, surely? Have you not seem the religious doom-mongers on this site - many having different versions of the apocalypse facing us? Atheist or not, those who look at the evidence from our past, and what science tells us about the possible threats we face (who knows when?), shows it would be rather foolish to discount the possibility of any of these occurring - even if the odds are minimal. 65 millions years ago a rather large object hit the Earth, destroying much of life, and unfortunately we don't seem to have the capability of detecting ALL such threats. Our particular nasty object might appear at any time - with us being entirely unable to do anything about it. That's (one) reality.

    Only those who can't place these threats into perspective are liable to permanent panic mode - that is, if we can't do anything about such threats then why worry and just accept this fact. Individually, we know we are all going to die, such that why should it even bother us if it applied to the whole human race?
     
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    I am an atheist and have ben surrounded by atheists all my life. I also frequent atheists internet communties and frankly I never seen atheists dwell on cosmic catastrophy that are beyond our control.
     
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  10. ChristineM

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    Are they? Sure science discusses such as possiblity and major cataclysms are just that, possibility so worthy of discussion but atheistic obsession???

    From what i see of atheists it's "death happens, don't know where, don't know when but there is nothing anyone can do about it".

    On the other hand some religious/religions do obsess about such things as living for eternity by their gods side!

    There are of course those why try to project their ignorance of what atheism actually is into reasons to criticize atheism but hey, ho c'est la vie.
     
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  11. ChristineM

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    As opposed to the sad lack of reality employed by many theists who have become stuck in their own egotistical presumptions about "subjective dreams" and "lack of evidence", as if these somehow rendered reality insignificant.
     
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    You are "noticing" something that is not there.

    I have noticed a tendrncy fot theists to do that.
    (All of them)
     
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    Ssd reality too of people who just have to be tiresome.
     
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    Which atheists have you been hanging out with? o_O
     
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    That doesn't quite mesh with what I've seen. I certainly don't think of imagination as 'insignificant'. I also live in a country with a LOT of atheists. For the most part we are just people, with all the flaws and variance that entails. Apart from me, of course. I'm f***ing perfect...
     
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    Hats off to your perfect lover...
     
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    Heh...that made me chuckle.
     
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    Personally I know many atheists and strong agnostics and no one is obsessed with imminent death. In fact I have been close personally with two that were terminally ill, and no, they were not concerned with their imminent death.
     
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    What a silly op. I wonder if people who post these things really believe them or are just trying to start arguments over false charges.

    Maybe be more truthful and if you don't understand atheists then ask instead of posting silly stories and projecting your own insecurities and character flaws on to them.
     
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    Where is the "winner times two" thing?
     
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