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Featured Why are so many attached to wealth?

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by Amanaki, Apr 17, 2019.

  1. Wandering Monk

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    @Wandering Monk

    You are very selective in your presentation of data. That's fine, I guess. :shrug:

    This is better:


    ... though it doesn't present the global ecocide and mass extinction consequences.
     
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    For me, its almost like addiction. Spending it releases endorphins, which we know are addictive.

    Having said that, having money makes everything easier. If I won the lottery tomorrow, I could quit my job and live extremely comfortably for the rest of my life. That is good for my animal need to avoid pain and find comfort.

    Although, I'm coming from a position which would require you to accept that humans are animals, and I know you don't, so I wouldn't be offended if my view doesn't vibe :)
     
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    Are you one of these guys:

    Climate activists glued to Corbyn's home
     
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    What about the need to accomplish something and leave a legacy?
     
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    As Beatrice Kaufman said, "I've been poor and I've been rich. Rich is better."

    I've been struggling financially most of my life; worried about the mortgage, about bills, about educating my kids, taking care of my husband in his last days, some days just trying to figure out how to feed five kids on three boxes of mac and cheese while trying to decide whether it will be cheaper to let the electricity get shut off or the gas, because it was less expensive to pay the fees to get one turned back on than the other.

    I have absolutely no patience for people who go on and on about the moral joys of poverty. I HAVE noticed that the only people who do that are those who don't really have a clue what it's like to be poor.

    I would so much rather be wealthy, with my problems being which charity to hand over my excess funds to, than dealing with that.

    If I had a chance to be wealthy enough to pay off the mortgage, get my oldest daughter and her husband a house to live in so they don't have to live with me, and my brother a place to live so HE doesn't have to live with me, to hire someone to help me take care of my parents, and get a car that would allow me to take said parents to their appointments in some comfort, trust me, I wouldn't turn the opportunity down.

    AND I would buy Coach handbags (the one my daughters gave me for Christmas two years ago still looks new!) and shop somewhere other than WalMart for my clothes, and I wouldn't feel one bit guilty for doing so.

    There is nothing immoral about having money. The immorality comes in what one does with it, and whether one confuses the means to obtain things with character.
     
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    Its associated with the increasing collapse of the middle class, the end of opportunities of upward mobility and rising stratification of wealth. Maybe the society is returning to the pre-industrial ten thousand year status-quo of a few living lavishly and in control of everything and the rest barely living half-fed day in and day out.
     
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    Maybe? We're already at that point.
     
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    Wealth can give people many of the things they need and almost all of the things they think they want.
     
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    I think that's probably more of a cultural adaptation, but I concede the point :)
     
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    Not yet.
     
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    Hi, I think your post was really good. Who goes on about the moral joys of poverty?
     
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    What country do you live in?
     
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    yeah ….and I hear wealthy people are often unhappy

    but.....I would like to try it for myself


    just to be sure money is the problem
     
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    I seem to remember a survey done years ago that showed that, regardless of their income level, people believed they would be happiest with about 20% more income.
     
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    Folks who don't HAVE to live in it, that's who.
     
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    I live in the US. I believe in global warming.

    The data I posted earlier all have the GLOBAL aggregate. As nations become wealthier, they have the economic means to clean up their environment. Whether they do or not depends on the strength of the will of the people.
     
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