Why Are Genocides Associated with Evolutionists and Atheists? Coincidence?

[Subduction Zone]

Depends if we label wolves in sheep's clothing as sheep.... or the wolves they actually are.....

Please, you know that is not true. Just because your book of myths lies about others is no excuse for its followers to do so.

 

[Justatruthseeker]

Perhaps. Yet the history is there. That undermines your points more than mine.

Afraid not, since history shows it's usually just a couple leaders that start wars. You have yet to show the history books consider them actual sanctioned Jihads by the Quran.... So far its just you saying they were....

You never asked for a link nor reference. You didn't question it. Now you only do as I poke holes in your linked source.

Didn't realize someone claiming to be poking holes was considered actually showing they poked holes....

No it makes them contemporary compared to an unknown cite made in the 21st century ignoring history.

History you have yet to show backs you in any way as to your accuracy of their actually following the Quran......

Claims the apologist trying to damage control as Muslim nations do a fine job of making Islam look horrible.

That's what Jihadists do. Foster division even among their own..... making their own religion look bad.

You never asked for one and didn't complain until I took yours to task. Whine more

Didn't realize claiming to take someone to task was the same as actually doing it.....

You never asked for one and didn't complain until I took yours to task. Whine more.

Didn't realize claiming to take someone to task was the same as actually doing it.....

Also remember you claimed Jihad was not used aggressive warfare not I. That was your burden to meet which you failed.

No, I supported mine just fine by showing it was used to defend the faith, not take over countries, and that innocent women and children were not to be harmed, not blown to pieces.... That Mohamed himself said both Jews and Christians were "people of the book" and therefore were to be protected, not blown to shreds.... Unless of course they participate in attacking the faith... as the crusades did....

But ignoring reality tends to make people dismiss things when presented....

 

[Justatruthseeker]

Please, you know that is not true. Just because your book of myths lies about others is no excuse for its followers to do so.

Or you just wouldn't recognize a wolf in sheep's clothing if he bit your hand..... as you keep trying to bite mine....

 

[Subduction Zone]

Or you just wouldn't recognize a wolf in sheep's clothing if he bit your hand..... as you keep trying to bite mine....

Correcting gross errors and personal attacks is hardly biting.

 

[Justatruthseeker]

Please you are projecting again. You are the one that believes in magic. Just because you do not understand something does not mean that the other side is appealing to magic.

And yet again, no actual science to back your claims because all you have to present is Fairie Dust, because the theory that has been tested to be 99.8% accurate, was tested to that accuracy without one tiny bit of that Fairie Dust.

But keep ignoring that accuracy to your hearts content.....

 

[Justatruthseeker]

Correcting gross errors and personal attacks is hardly biting.

I agree, your personal attacks are mere pests....

 

[Shad]

Afraid not, since history shows it's usually just a couple leaders that start wars. You have yet to show the history books consider them actual sanctioned Jihads by the Quran.... So far its just you saying they were....

Jihad in Islamic History page 60-61

Didn't realize someone claiming to be poking holes was considered actually showing they poked holes....

No the fact that you claim my examples were just claim while your example was not and me pointing that out poked holes in it.

History you have yet to show backs you in any way as to your accuracy of their actually following the Quran......

Iberian conquest in conjunction with the citation about

That's what Jihadists do. Foster division even among their own..... making their own religion look bad.

That is not their goal. Beside non-Jihadist can make their religion look bad. Look at KSA.

Didn't realize claiming to take someone to task was the same as actually doing it.....

It was about your criticism only being applied to my points when it applies to your own

No, I supported mine just fine by showing it was used to defend the faith, not take over countries, and that innocent women and children were not to be harmed, not blown to pieces.... That Mohamed himself said both Jews and Christians were "people of the book" and therefore were to be protected, not blown to shreds.... Unless of course they participate in attacking the faith... as the crusades did....

You linked a source which ignores history thus proved nothing.

But ignoring reality tends to make people dismiss things when presented....

Ah like ignoring history as you and your source have done?

 

[Subduction Zone]

And yet again, no actual science to back your claims because all you have to present is Fairie Dust, because the theory that has been tested to be 99.8% accurate, was tested to that accuracy without one tiny bit of that Fairie Dust.

But keep ignoring that accuracy to your hearts content.....

You cannot complain when you refuse to learn.

Try to avoid false claims about others. You believe in magic, that does not mean that everyone does.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I agree, your personal attacks are mere pests....

Please, once again you are spreading falsehoods. I only correct.

 

[Revoltingest]

Until both were applied outside the solar system and GR which was 99.8% accurate inside the solar system to non-ionized matter without any additional theory added to it, suddenly didn't work at all and needed 96% Fairie Dust added to it to make it fit a semblance of reality......

Not quite right about the "not at all".
Newtonian gravitation still works quite well in many situations.
But that's unrelated to your claim that theories change on a "whim".
GR was a new view which expanded upon special relativity in order
to account for effects of gravity & acceleration. Far from being mere
"fairie [sic] dust", it's a rigorous mathematical treatment of the physics
with repeated verification (eg, precession of Mercury's orbit, gravitational
lensing) & practical application (eg, GPS, timekeeping).

Unless we talk about Dark Matter, dark Energy, or xpanding space, then that's proven fact, right????? All those things not needed where GR was tested to that 99.8% accuracy?

Those are not proven facts.
They are theories which are being continually developed & tested.
GR addresses observable matter. However, I don't know to what
extent it applies to what is called "dark matter" & "dark energy".
Certainly, there will be new explanations & models (theories) which
address them, & reconcile them with GR, & perhaps quantum physics.

Note again that the only reason new theories are arising is because of
new discoveries about the natural world. Science is not a set of truths
carved in stone. Nay, it's a continually improving understanding of how
things function. So it is "useful" rather than "true".

For someone claiming to believe in GR you sure dismissed it awfully fast when it tried to tell you something by being 99.8% correct inside the solar system to non-ionized matter, but failing by 96% outside applied to ionized matter.... Couldn't just be because plasma 99.9% of the universe has it's own physics that is applied to it in every laboratory, could it????

I've never dismissed GR.
In all my years on RF, I've said it's "useful".
But I've never claimed that it's true, or in any way the final word in physics.

Like not every science classroom uses the same books?

Your point isn't clear here.

Not my fault you didn't look up the words in Hebrew.... to see what they actually mean in Hebrew, instead of just accepting someone else's word....

I don't speak Hebrew...nor other languages of the Bible.
I don't buy that one may correctly understand scriptural truths only
in the original languages. If you cannot relate them, & demonstrate
validity independently, then once again....nicht einmal falsch.
Such claims that any particular flavor of Christianity has the truth is
no more valid than Islam's or another religion's many varieties.
They're all neither right nor wrong

Because some refuse to accept what the Hebrew word "hayah" means in Hebrew.... But we are discussing peoples distorted view of time dilation in another thread if you care to join. You can take their side and support the twin who's clocks changed before his eyes while he believed they didn't change at all..... Deny reality just like they are....

I'm not denying reality...just the ancient writings of scientifically illiterate goatherds.
What they say is not true simply because they said it. Moreover, languages evolve,
so meaning becomes obscured over time. This is horrendous approach to "truth".

which would be dissident scientific papers in science jargon....

The cream rises to the top eventually.
Science is all about hypothesizing, challenge, testing, discovering, changing,
& continually improving our understanding. So disagreement is part of the
process.
But religions typically claim "the truth", inerrant & unchanging. Yet it is always
changin, full of fighting, & varied.
Who really has the truth?
You?
Are the 99% of believers who disagree with you wrong?
They'd say that you're the one reading incorrectly.
But none of you can be proven right or wrong...
...because you're nicht einmal falsch.

Like the 26 definitions of what species is because no one can agree on what it actually is?????

Such categorization is a work in progress...as it should be.

Or magical dark Matter exists in halos around the galaxy while ignoring those plasma halos right where it was supposed to be and was "dark" before we could see it????

Dark matter isn't magical. It is a phenomenon which has been detected.
It has properties (not all known) which can be measured & even mapped.

"Magic" would best describe things which cannot be detected, ie, the supernatural.
Examples: the soul, God, Allah, Thor, Heaven, Hell, demons, Satan

Or expanding nothing that only happens way out that a way where it cant be verified in any lab....

Scientists often create theories which aren't testable at the moment.
They comport with current observations, but they aren't claimed to be "true".

Yet despite your claiming you can't prove it right or wrong, you consider it wrong..... wouldn't that be the definition of insanity????

What's wrong is the method, ie, to believe something is true based solely upon
blind faith. Communicating with an undetectable omnipotent being from an
ancient book could be called insanity. But that's your term, not mine.

 

[ecco]

Fifty comments Friday night and then ... nothing?

What a strange thread.

 

[Revoltingest]

Fifty comments Friday night and then ... nothing?

What a strange thread.

I killed it....until you reanimated it.

 

[ecco]

I killed it....until you reanimated it.

Ya mean the way God reanimated Jesus?!?

 

[Revoltingest]

Ya mean the way God reanimated Jesus?!?

I don't got no Bible learn'n, but it seems the same.

 

[gnostic]

I killed it....until you reanimated it.

Ya mean the way God reanimated Jesus?!?

I don't got no Bible learn'n, but it seems the same.

I was going to go with Count Dracula movies as an analogy.

Every time they killed the vamp, some bloody producers make new ones, like cockroaches!

We really should “stake” all the producers, directors, screenwriters, so they would stop resurrecting the bloody s###! *beep*

Oops! Did I just swear? Sorry.

 

[ecco]

I was going to go with Count Dracula movies as an analogy.

Every time they killed the vamp, some bloody producers make new ones, like cockroaches!

We really should “stake” all the producers, directors, screenwriters, so they would stop resurrecting the bloody s###! *beep*

Oops! Did I just swear? Sorry.

No Prob. Three Hail Marys gets ya off the hook.

 

[Dan Mellis]

Here is a partial list of Evolutionists and/or Atheist dictators behind some of the most brutal regimes in the past few centuries - in their own words:

- Vladimir Lenin (1870 - 1924): Atheist and Evolutionist who renounced his belief in God after the death of his father and beloved brother; he said:
1) "Atheism is a natural and inseparable part of Marxism..."
2) "Darwin put an end to the belief that the animal and vegetable species bear no relation to one another, except by chance, and that they were created by God, and hence immutable."
He established hundreds of concentration camps while ordering the execution of Christians, Jews, and Muslims throughout Russia; his regime was responsible for the deaths of 6 - 8 million people through execution, starvation and war.
(ref: Volkogonov, D. (1994). Lenin: Life and Legacy.; Necrometrics.com)

- Leon Trotsky (1879 - 1940): Self-proclaimed "irreconcilable Atheist" and Evolutionist who said:
1) "We call our dialectic 'materialist', since its roots are neither in heaven nor in the depths of our “free will”, but in objective reality, in nature...There is place within this system for neither God nor Devil, nor immortal soul, nor eternal norms of laws and morals.";
2) "Every educated person since Darwin has labeled themselves an “evolutionist”. But a real evolutionist must apply the idea of evolution to his own forms of thinking."
3) "I shall die a proletarian revolutionist, a Marxist, a dialectical materialist, and, consequently, an irreconcilable atheist."
4) "But whatever may be the circumstances of my death I shall die with unshaken faith in the communist future. This faith in man and in his future gives me even now such power of resistance as cannot be given by any religion."
As a Bolshevik leader he masterminded the murder of hundreds of thousands of Russians through starvation and war during the Communist Russian Revolution.
(ref: Trotsky, L., Trotsky's Testament, 1940)

- Benito Mussolini (1883 - 1945): Atheist and Evolutionist who said:
1) "The God of the theologians is the creation of their empty heads."
2) "The history of the saints is mainly the history of insane people."
3) "Religion is a species of mental disease. It has always had a pathological reaction on mankind."
4) "When we claim 'God does not exist', we mean to deny by this declaration the personal God of theology, the God worshiped in various ways and divers modes by believers the world over... that God of absurd attributes who is an affront to human reason."
5) "Science is now in the process of destroying religious dogma. The dogma of the divine creation is recognized as absurd."
He was known for "daring God to strike him dead" on many public occasions; although he occasionally courted the Catholic church to gain political control, when he did gain control he persecuted both the Protestant and Catholic church by killing thousands of priests and clergy; responsible for 400 to 500 thousand deaths; he was executed by a firing squad while attempting to escape from Italy.
(ref: Haught, J., 2000 Years of Disbelief: Famous People with the Courage to Doubt.; Mussolini, B.
'Homme et la divinite/Bibliotheque Internationale de propagande rationaliste, Geneva)

- Joseph Stalin (died 1953): Became an Atheist/Darwinist after reading Darwin's "Origin of Species", stating:
1) "You know, they are fooling us. There is no God.”
2) "'I'll lend you a book to read (Darwin). It will show you that the world and all living things are quite different from what you imagine, and all this talk about God is sheer nonsense...."
He made atheism the official ideology of Russia and flooded the media and schools with atheistic propaganda; he crushed the Russian Orthodox Church, leveling thousands of churches and killing more than 100,000 priests, monks and nuns during the religious "purge" between 1937 and 1938 alone. Overall, his atheistic dictatorship killed 80 million people by starvation, execution, and war.
(ref: E. Yaroslavsky, Landmarks in the Life of Stalin, 1940;

- Margaret Sanger (died 1966): Atheist and Darwinist who said:
1) "The most merciful thing that a large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it".
Although she was never in power to be a dictator, she was an advocate of eugenics (Darwinist-based attempts to develop a superior race through selective breeding of humans), mandatory sterilizations of the "unfit", and infanticide; founder of Planned Parenthood - America's largest abortion provider responsible for the deaths of untold millions of preborn children.

- Mao Zedong (died 1976): Atheist, with Darwin as his favorite author; he stated:
1) "Religion is poison."
2) “Atheism must take the place of belief in a God.”
3) "Chinese socialism is founded upon Darwin and the theory of evolution."
Although he used the terms "gods" and "goddess" in his colorful poems, he made atheism the official ideology of China and flooded the media and schools with atheistic propaganda; lived an opulent lifestyle while the common people starved; his regime caused the deaths of 40 to 80 million people by starvation, torture, and executions.
(ref: M. Zedong, M. Kau, and J. Leung, The Writings of Mao Zedong, 1976; The Poems of Mao Tse-tung, Harper & Row).

- Karl Marx (1818 - 1883): Atheist who famously said:
1) "Man makes religion, religion does not make man"
2) "It (religion) is the opium of the people".
Evolutionist who enthusiastically called Darwin’s "Origin of Species" as "This is the book which contains the basis in natural history for our views.”
Although not a dictator himself, his writings and ideologies were used by many dictators to murder tens of millions. In Russia alone, 20 million Christians were killed by dictators who used his writings. (International Socialist Review, Issue #65; Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, Selected Correspondence 1846–1895)

- Friedrich Nietzsche (1844-1900): Atheist who said: "God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him."; and "...a theologian, a priest, a pope of today not only errs when he speaks, but actually lies—and that he no longer escapes blame for his lie through “innocence” or “ignorance.” The priest knows, as every one knows, that there is no longer any God." Evolutionist although he disagreed with certain minor points of Darwin's theory; his written work was the ideology behind Nazism which murdered millions; he was permanently placed in an psychiatric asylum after suffering a breakdown. ( The AntiChrist, F. Nietzsche, 1888)

- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945): Evolutionist; although he courted the Catholic church for his political gain, he was very anti-Christian and said:
1) "Our epoch will certainly see the end of the disease of Christianity.”
2) “Christianity is the worst of the regressions that mankind can ever have undergone...”
3) “The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity.”
4) Joseph Goebbels, Hitler’s minister of propaganda, noted in his diary in 1939: "The Fuehrer is deeply religious, but deeply anti-Christian. He regards Christianity as a symptom of decay. Rightly so. It is a branch of the Jewish race."
5) Martin Bormann, Hitler's secretary and right hand man, publicly stated in 1941, "National Socialism and Christianity are irreconcilable."
Hitler publicly and repeatedly invoked the name of God as a ruse to justify his brutal military and political actions; he applied Darwin's theory of evolution and "survival of the fittest" while attempting to develop a biologically superior race through ethnic cleansing; showed no regard for accountability to a higher power by killing 11 to 14 million people through starvation, execution, and war; committed suicide to avoid capture at the end of World War 2.

- Pol Pot (died 1998): Evolutionist who, as leader of the deadly Khmer Rouge, adopted Mao's Darwinist philosophies; known for his "Cambodian killing fields"; closed all religious institutions including Buddhist temples but especially persecuted Christians and Muslims; responsible for 1 to 3 million executions, mostly using axes, hammers, and sharpened bamboo sticks to save ammunition.

- Jim Jones (died 1978): Atheist who said:
1) "Off the record, I don’t believe in any loving God. Our people, I would say, are ninety percent atheist."
2) "I felt somewhat hypocritical for the last years as I became an atheist."
3) "You feel tainted, by being in the church situation. But of course, everyone knows where I’m at. My bishop knows that I’m an atheist...He must have spent twenty thousand dollars traveling around, hoping to get my denomination to remove me, because I was so atheistic.”
He was responsible for the 1978 mass murder/suicide of 908 members of the People's Temple cult in Guyana; he personally ordered the executions of several members of the visiting press and a U.S. Congressman.
(ref: The Jonestown Institute audiotape, 1976).



The response from atheists is that these dictators were motivated by communism and not by atheism or Darwinism. In other words, its only a coincidence that almost all of the genocidal dictators of the 20th Century - basically a 'Who's Who' List of dictators were all evolutionists and/or atheists. In addition, since the dictator could not have done the millions of killings himself, he had to employ thousands who shared his values and philosophies to help him. Interestingly, the case of serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer (who was an atheist and evolutionist) may shed some light on these questions about the motivation behind their deeds:

Jeffrey Dahmer (1960 - 1994), Atheist/Evolutionist and serial killer, who said:
1) "If a person doesn’t think there is a God to be accountable to, then—then what's the point of trying to modify your behavior to keep it within acceptable ranges? That's how I thought anyway.
I always believed the theory of evolution as truth, that we all just came from the slime. When we, when we died, you know, that was it, there is nothing. So the whole theory (evolution) cheapens life."
(ref: Stone Phillips Interview with Jeffrey Dahmer, Dateline NBC, February 1994).

Amazingly, Jeffrey Dahmer converted to Christianity in prison with the help of his father (who himself became a Christian and creationist later in his own life). Dahmer was later murdered in prison. However, he went to Heaven by the grace of God - stories don't end any better than that! If God can save a serial killer, He can save anyone! Thank You Lord for your mercy on him!

Lets address the morality claim first. Morality doesn't come from god - do you think that the jews thought killing and stealing were fine before the commandments? No. Morality is defined by the society we live in... which is why slavery isn't ok now, but its totally fine in the bible and was fine up until recent history in the western world. Societal values changed (probably worth pointing out that they became less religious), so the perception of morality changed.

Secondly, you seem to be only referencing genocides to which you can link someone you percieve to be an atheist. There are many which have been perpetrated by extremely devout people of many different faiths... I say again - morality has nothing to do with religion.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

And yet again, no actual science to back your claims because all you have to present is Fairie Dust, because the theory that has been tested to be 99.8% accurate, was tested to that accuracy without one tiny bit of that Fairie Dust.

But keep ignoring that accuracy to your hearts content.....

Which theory are you claiming has been tested to be 99.8% accurate?

 

[jhwatts]

The real question is to ask why is collectivism (communism, fascism, socialism, etc.) so obsessed with controlling human reproduction, either through eugenics or abortion. It seems to be something that is super important to them. Maybe there is something to the whole root race thing. A primitive race of humans possibly androgynous. That does seem strange. You would think collectivism would be obsessed with gender. Attempting to move humanity back to its androgynous state. A social movement focused on feminism, gender neutrality, homosexuality, and humans being trans-gender. Of course it would all be in the name of human liberation.


This does seem crazy.

I’ve got something better. What if the primitive root man was modified by a supernatural or advance being and made male and female. What as this new man was told to have strict rules on marriage such as male and female only and was taught to shun homosexuality. What if the collectivist side pushing to return man back to its original state wanted man to forget his modification and produce a social movement to simply deny the existence of this supernatural being.

As the book of Genesis says, there are those made from the dust of the earth and those made in His likeness.

Or on the back of the USA one dollar bill. There are the collectivist side (E pluribus unum) and the individualist side (Annuit coeptis). In short, “out of many one” and “God favors our undertakings”.

One more thought, if I was on side individualism and wanted to hinder the collectivist trying to talk all the races and genders and combine them in “One” I might simply want to build a wall to stop the influx of other nationality's.



That is real crazy.

 

[Milton Platt]

Here is a partial list of Evolutionists and/or Atheist dictators behind some of the most brutal regimes in the past few centuries - in their own words:

- Vladimir Lenin (1870 - 1924): Atheist and Evolutionist who renounced his belief in God after the death of his father and beloved brother; he said:
1) "Atheism is a natural and inseparable part of Marxism..."
2) "Darwin put an end to the belief that the animal and vegetable species bear no relation to one another, except by chance, and that they were created by God, and hence immutable."
He established hundreds of concentration camps while ordering the execution of Christians, Jews, and Muslims throughout Russia; his regime was responsible for the deaths of 6 - 8 million people through execution, starvation and war.
(ref: Volkogonov, D. (1994). Lenin: Life and Legacy.; Necrometrics.com)

- Leon Trotsky (1879 - 1940): Self-proclaimed "irreconcilable Atheist" and Evolutionist who said:
1) "We call our dialectic 'materialist', since its roots are neither in heaven nor in the depths of our “free will”, but in objective reality, in nature...There is place within this system for neither God nor Devil, nor immortal soul, nor eternal norms of laws and morals.";
2) "Every educated person since Darwin has labeled themselves an “evolutionist”. But a real evolutionist must apply the idea of evolution to his own forms of thinking."
3) "I shall die a proletarian revolutionist, a Marxist, a dialectical materialist, and, consequently, an irreconcilable atheist."
4) "But whatever may be the circumstances of my death I shall die with unshaken faith in the communist future. This faith in man and in his future gives me even now such power of resistance as cannot be given by any religion."
As a Bolshevik leader he masterminded the murder of hundreds of thousands of Russians through starvation and war during the Communist Russian Revolution.
(ref: Trotsky, L., Trotsky's Testament, 1940)

- Benito Mussolini (1883 - 1945): Atheist and Evolutionist who said:
1) "The God of the theologians is the creation of their empty heads."
2) "The history of the saints is mainly the history of insane people."
3) "Religion is a species of mental disease. It has always had a pathological reaction on mankind."
4) "When we claim 'God does not exist', we mean to deny by this declaration the personal God of theology, the God worshiped in various ways and divers modes by believers the world over... that God of absurd attributes who is an affront to human reason."
5) "Science is now in the process of destroying religious dogma. The dogma of the divine creation is recognized as absurd."
He was known for "daring God to strike him dead" on many public occasions; although he occasionally courted the Catholic church to gain political control, when he did gain control he persecuted both the Protestant and Catholic church by killing thousands of priests and clergy; responsible for 400 to 500 thousand deaths; he was executed by a firing squad while attempting to escape from Italy.
(ref: Haught, J., 2000 Years of Disbelief: Famous People with the Courage to Doubt.; Mussolini, B.
'Homme et la divinite/Bibliotheque Internationale de propagande rationaliste, Geneva)

- Joseph Stalin (died 1953): Became an Atheist/Darwinist after reading Darwin's "Origin of Species", stating:
1) "You know, they are fooling us. There is no God.”
2) "'I'll lend you a book to read (Darwin). It will show you that the world and all living things are quite different from what you imagine, and all this talk about God is sheer nonsense...."
He made atheism the official ideology of Russia and flooded the media and schools with atheistic propaganda; he crushed the Russian Orthodox Church, leveling thousands of churches and killing more than 100,000 priests, monks and nuns during the religious "purge" between 1937 and 1938 alone. Overall, his atheistic dictatorship killed 80 million people by starvation, execution, and war.
(ref: E. Yaroslavsky, Landmarks in the Life of Stalin, 1940;

- Margaret Sanger (died 1966): Atheist and Darwinist who said:
1) "The most merciful thing that a large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it".
Although she was never in power to be a dictator, she was an advocate of eugenics (Darwinist-based attempts to develop a superior race through selective breeding of humans), mandatory sterilizations of the "unfit", and infanticide; founder of Planned Parenthood - America's largest abortion provider responsible for the deaths of untold millions of preborn children.

- Mao Zedong (died 1976): Atheist, with Darwin as his favorite author; he stated:
1) "Religion is poison."
2) “Atheism must take the place of belief in a God.”
3) "Chinese socialism is founded upon Darwin and the theory of evolution."
Although he used the terms "gods" and "goddess" in his colorful poems, he made atheism the official ideology of China and flooded the media and schools with atheistic propaganda; lived an opulent lifestyle while the common people starved; his regime caused the deaths of 40 to 80 million people by starvation, torture, and executions.
(ref: M. Zedong, M. Kau, and J. Leung, The Writings of Mao Zedong, 1976; The Poems of Mao Tse-tung, Harper & Row).

- Karl Marx (1818 - 1883): Atheist who famously said:
1) "Man makes religion, religion does not make man"
2) "It (religion) is the opium of the people".
Evolutionist who enthusiastically called Darwin’s "Origin of Species" as "This is the book which contains the basis in natural history for our views.”
Although not a dictator himself, his writings and ideologies were used by many dictators to murder tens of millions. In Russia alone, 20 million Christians were killed by dictators who used his writings. (International Socialist Review, Issue #65; Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, Selected Correspondence 1846–1895)

- Friedrich Nietzsche (1844-1900): Atheist who said: "God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him."; and "...a theologian, a priest, a pope of today not only errs when he speaks, but actually lies—and that he no longer escapes blame for his lie through “innocence” or “ignorance.” The priest knows, as every one knows, that there is no longer any God." Evolutionist although he disagreed with certain minor points of Darwin's theory; his written work was the ideology behind Nazism which murdered millions; he was permanently placed in an psychiatric asylum after suffering a breakdown. ( The AntiChrist, F. Nietzsche, 1888)

- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945): Evolutionist; although he courted the Catholic church for his political gain, he was very anti-Christian and said:
1) "Our epoch will certainly see the end of the disease of Christianity.”
2) “Christianity is the worst of the regressions that mankind can ever have undergone...”
3) “The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity.”
4) Joseph Goebbels, Hitler’s minister of propaganda, noted in his diary in 1939: "The Fuehrer is deeply religious, but deeply anti-Christian. He regards Christianity as a symptom of decay. Rightly so. It is a branch of the Jewish race."
5) Martin Bormann, Hitler's secretary and right hand man, publicly stated in 1941, "National Socialism and Christianity are irreconcilable."
Hitler publicly and repeatedly invoked the name of God as a ruse to justify his brutal military and political actions; he applied Darwin's theory of evolution and "survival of the fittest" while attempting to develop a biologically superior race through ethnic cleansing; showed no regard for accountability to a higher power by killing 11 to 14 million people through starvation, execution, and war; committed suicide to avoid capture at the end of World War 2.

- Pol Pot (died 1998): Evolutionist who, as leader of the deadly Khmer Rouge, adopted Mao's Darwinist philosophies; known for his "Cambodian killing fields"; closed all religious institutions including Buddhist temples but especially persecuted Christians and Muslims; responsible for 1 to 3 million executions, mostly using axes, hammers, and sharpened bamboo sticks to save ammunition.

- Jim Jones (died 1978): Atheist who said:
1) "Off the record, I don’t believe in any loving God. Our people, I would say, are ninety percent atheist."
2) "I felt somewhat hypocritical for the last years as I became an atheist."
3) "You feel tainted, by being in the church situation. But of course, everyone knows where I’m at. My bishop knows that I’m an atheist...He must have spent twenty thousand dollars traveling around, hoping to get my denomination to remove me, because I was so atheistic.”
He was responsible for the 1978 mass murder/suicide of 908 members of the People's Temple cult in Guyana; he personally ordered the executions of several members of the visiting press and a U.S. Congressman.
(ref: The Jonestown Institute audiotape, 1976).



The response from atheists is that these dictators were motivated by communism and not by atheism or Darwinism. In other words, its only a coincidence that almost all of the genocidal dictators of the 20th Century - basically a 'Who's Who' List of dictators were all evolutionists and/or atheists. In addition, since the dictator could not have done the millions of killings himself, he had to employ thousands who shared his values and philosophies to help him. Interestingly, the case of serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer (who was an atheist and evolutionist) may shed some light on these questions about the motivation behind their deeds:

Jeffrey Dahmer (1960 - 1994), Atheist/Evolutionist and serial killer, who said:
1) "If a person doesn’t think there is a God to be accountable to, then—then what's the point of trying to modify your behavior to keep it within acceptable ranges? That's how I thought anyway.
I always believed the theory of evolution as truth, that we all just came from the slime. When we, when we died, you know, that was it, there is nothing. So the whole theory (evolution) cheapens life."
(ref: Stone Phillips Interview with Jeffrey Dahmer, Dateline NBC, February 1994).

Amazingly, Jeffrey Dahmer converted to Christianity in prison with the help of his father (who himself became a Christian and creationist later in his own life). Dahmer was later murdered in prison. However, he went to Heaven by the grace of God - stories don't end any better than that! If God can save a serial killer, He can save anyone! Thank You Lord for your mercy on him!

Are we going go down this ridiculous road once again?


If you are so morally bankrupt that the only thing keeping you from committing genocide is belief in your god, then by all means keep believing.