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Why Are Genocides Associated with Evolutionists and Atheists? Coincidence?

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
So many personal opinions posted so far but no refutations that these dictators said they were atheists and/or evolutionists.

These dictators stated in their own words that they were atheists and/or evolutionists. See sossosoures listed.


As far as i am aware the only 2 "dictators" you list in the OP who said that they were atheist are Lenin and Mao Zedong.
So i suggest you provide your sources for your claim stated in their own words that they were atheists and/or evolutionists.

Certainly Stalin was known as the only christian in the kremlin. He rebuilt the russian church after the revolution, donated millions of rubles to the church and had not 1, not 2 but 3 church leaders officiate at his funeral. The actions if an atheist? I think not. However he was branded atheist 40+ years after meeting him (and after his death) by a fellow student. All accusations that he was atheist stem from this event.

Pol pot remained a buddhist all his life in that he never renounced his faith.

And hitler. Staunch catholic with vatican backing who governed over a willing protestant population.
"My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter." Adolf Hitler
"endow us with wisdom and the trust of our people, for we are fighting not for ourselves but for Germany." Adolf Hitler
"And now Staatspräsident Bolz says that Christianity and the Catholic faith are threatened by us. And to that charge I can answer: In the first place it is Christians and not international atheists who now stand at the head of Germany." Adolf Hitler
"The Government of the Reich, which regards Christianity as the unshakable foundation of the morals and moral code of the nation, attaches the greatest value to friendly relations with the Holy See, and is endeavouring to develop them." Adolf Hitler
And on, and on, and on.

Oh, and he was democratically elected.

Methinks you confuse nationalism and atheism
 

ecco

Veteran Member
..."My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter." Adolf Hitler

"And now Staatspräsident Bolz says that Christianity and the Catholic faith are threatened by us. And to that charge I can answer: In the first place it is Christians and not international atheists who now stand at the head of Germany." Adolf Hitler

"The Government of the Reich, which regards Christianity as the unshakable foundation of the morals and moral code of the nation, attaches the greatest value to friendly relations with the Holy See, and is endeavouring to develop them." Adolf Hitler
Let's also remember that Hitler used the teachings of Luther to stoke the flames of anti-Semitism.
 

ecco

Veteran Member
The OP:
Why Are Genocides Associated with Evolutionists and Atheists?

Because religious people don't want to acknowledge that bad behaviour is the result of religion.
 

sooda

Veteran Member
The OP:
Why Are Genocides Associated with Evolutionists and Atheists?

Because religious people don't want to acknowledge that bad behaviour is the result of religion.

Assad tried to get rid of all Syrian Sunnis.
 

sooda

Veteran Member
What's your point?

Its certainly religious in Syria.

The regime of Iran-backed Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad has engaged in a systematic campaign of ethnically cleansing Sunnis from the capital of Damascus, in order to strengthen Assad’s hold on his strife-torn country and realize Iran’s ambition of creating a Shiite crescent in the Middle East, an analysis published Thursday by the Washington Institute for Near East Policy asserted.

Hanin Ghaddar, a fellow of the institute and a veteran Lebanese journalist, observed that Assad’s forces captured the largely Sunni suburb of Daraya in August after convincing 8,000 residents to leave. The remaining residents surrendered following intense bombardment and denial of access to food and medical needs. Ghaddar called the regime’s tactics “starve or surrender,” and noted that following the surrender of Daraya, the regime targeted two more Sunni areas with threats of “total war” if they did not surrender. Now, she wrote, “Assad seems to be moving from ‘starve or surrender’ to ‘war or surrender’ tactics in order to eliminate any Sunni presence around Damascus as soon as possible.”

Ghaddar predicted that this campaign will continue, with Sunnis living in other areas around Damascus being forced out as well. They may be replaced by Shiites in an effort to change the religious balance of the area: Arab media have reported this week that some 300 Shiite families from Iraq have been resettled in the emptied Damascus suburbs and given $2,000 each, Ghaddar wrote. The transfer was allegedly supervised by one of the Iraqi Shiite militias that works closely with Iran.

Bashar al-Assad’s father and predecessor Hafez did something similar during his rule, moving Alawites — the sect to which the Assads belong — into Damascus and the surrounding areas as a means of solidifying his rule. “Bashar,” Ghaddar noted, “now appears to be escalating his father’s strategy into the realm of ethnic cleansing.”

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Expert: Assad, Helped by Iran, Ethnically Cleansing Damascus Area of Sunnis - The Tower
 

ecco

Veteran Member
Assad tried to get rid of all Syrian Sunnis.

What's your point?

Its certainly religious in Syria.

The regime of Iran-backed Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad has engaged in a systematic campaign of ethnically cleansing Sunnis from the capital of Damascus, in order to strengthen Assad’s hold on his strife-torn country and realize Iran’s ambition of creating a Shiite crescent in the Middle East, an analysis published Thursday by the Washington Institute for Near East Policy asserted.

Hanin Ghaddar, a fellow of the institute and a veteran Lebanese journalist, observed that Assad’s forces captured the largely Sunni suburb of Daraya in August after convincing 8,000 residents to leave. The remaining residents surrendered following intense bombardment and denial of access to food and medical needs. Ghaddar called the regime’s tactics “starve or surrender,” and noted that following the surrender of Daraya, the regime targeted two more Sunni areas with threats of “total war” if they did not surrender. Now, she wrote, “Assad seems to be moving from ‘starve or surrender’ to ‘war or surrender’ tactics in order to eliminate any Sunni presence around Damascus as soon as possible.”

Ghaddar predicted that this campaign will continue, with Sunnis living in other areas around Damascus being forced out as well. They may be replaced by Shiites in an effort to change the religious balance of the area: Arab media have reported this week that some 300 Shiite families from Iraq have been resettled in the emptied Damascus suburbs and given $2,000 each, Ghaddar wrote. The transfer was allegedly supervised by one of the Iraqi Shiite militias that works closely with Iran.

Bashar al-Assad’s father and predecessor Hafez did something similar during his rule, moving Alawites — the sect to which the Assads belong — into Damascus and the surrounding areas as a means of solidifying his rule. “Bashar,” Ghaddar noted, “now appears to be escalating his father’s strategy into the realm of ethnic cleansing.”

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Expert: Assad, Helped by Iran, Ethnically Cleansing Damascus Area of Sunnis - The Tower
What does this have to do with atheists conducting genocides?

Are you suggesting Assad is an atheist?
 

ecco

Veteran Member
ecco said:
What does this have to do with atheists conducting genocides?

Are you suggesting Assad is an atheist?
Most likely. His father was also a cruel tyrant.
Do you have anything to support your allegation that Assad, and possibly his father, is an atheist?

It is well documented that Bashar Al-Assad is an Alawite Muslim, an offshoot of Shia Islam.

So the question becomes why would you intentionally, and incorrectly, label this person an atheist?

Shiites and Sunnis kill each other just like Protestants and Catholics killed each other. They all do it for the same reason:
My God is the true God.
My religion is the true religion.
 

sooda

Veteran Member
ecco said:
What does this have to do with atheists conducting genocides?

Are you suggesting Assad is an atheist?

Do you have anything to support your allegation that Assad, and possibly his father, is an atheist?

It is well documented that Bashar Al-Assad is an Alawite Muslim, an offshoot of Shia Islam.

So the question becomes why would you intentionally, and incorrectly, label this person an atheist?

Shiites and Sunnis kill each other just like Protestants and Catholics killed each other. They all do it for the same reason:
My God is the true God.
My religion is the true religion.

Assad and his Alawite family operated like a mafia.. above the law. If you were Alawite, drug smuggling and kidnapping for ransom was NOT a problem.
 

ecco

Veteran Member
The OP:
Why Are Genocides Associated with Evolutionists and Atheists?

Because religious people don't want to acknowledge that bad behaviour is the result of religion.

Assad tried to get rid of all Syrian Sunnis.

What does this have to do with atheists conducting genocides?

Most likely. His father was also a cruel tyrant.

What does this have to do with atheists conducting genocides?

Are you suggesting Assad is an atheist?

Do you have anything to support your allegation that Assad, and possibly his father, is an atheist?
Assad and his Alawite family operated like a mafia.. above the law. If you were Alawite, drug smuggling and kidnapping for ransom was NOT a problem.


You made an assertion that Assad behaved badly because he was an atheist. Every time I asked you to support that ridiculous assertion, you haven't been able to. ducked and dodged.

Like many theologically driven people, you make outrageous comments and then, when asked to support them, you hem and haw, tap dance, duck, dodge, and weasel.

How really, really sad.
 

sooda

Veteran Member
You made an assertion that Assad behaved badly because he was an atheist. Every time I asked you to support that ridiculous assertion, you haven't been able to. ducked and dodged.

Like many theologically driven people, you make outrageous comments and then, when asked to support them, you hem and haw, tap dance, duck, dodge, and weasel.

How really, really sad.

Islam forbids murder... so I doubt Assad is an observant Muslim. For the past 3-4 years Iran has been settling Shia from Iran and Lebanon in Syria. The objective is to get rid of the Sunnis and have a Shia corridor all the way to Sidon.

Shia-Corridor.jpg
 
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