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Why A.I. speaks?

Discussion in 'Science and Technology' started by questfortruth, Sep 23, 2019.

  1. questfortruth

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    Fact: no AI can reach the level of an animal brain capability.

    Fact: animals can not talk like humans, but AI can. As example: Alexa, Google, Sophia.

    Conclusion: AI are simply the microphones and tools of demons.
    The Artificial Intelligence demonic possession.
     

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    Not a fact, 'arguing from ignorance.'
    To add, a significant lack of knowledge as to what A.I. is.

    Alexa, Google and Sophia do not represent A.I.

    Animals have been demonstrated to communicate with humans.

    Archaic, mythical and subjective conclusion based on an ancient religious agenda.
     
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    I believe you're wrong, considering we already have AI systems helping making management decisions in the corporate world... and... we have made AI animal-robots that learn how to walk and much more.

    Well, speech synthesis existed before Alexa and such did. Making computers talk like humans is a whole different area of research. AI is really the part that can analyze what the "AI" hears and make a proper decision. The speech part is just the response after the real AI has done its part.

    How dumb.

    On Linux, you spell it daemons, so you're factually wrong. LOL!!!
     
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    A.I is made by human beings, so technically you say human beings are all demons, and that is not something we can see as fact.
     
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    Or perhaps we can see humans as gods. God did create the devil and the demons after all (if you believe the myths). :)
     
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    Humans are not Gods :) But we can become Gods or Buddhas if we reach enlightenment within a cultivation path :) but without Cultivation then-No Humans can become a God
     
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    Alexa, Google, and Sophia are closer to VI, not AI. (Virtual Intelligence).
     
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    It is very similar to voices in people's heads. When you hear in your head stupid comments with not good association to reality it is a lot like what AI does, but the difference is that AI doesn't understand anything spoken. AI does not visualize anything that it says. It doesn't understand what words mean, but a person visualizes. Therefore it is a little bit like words that just pop into your head. AI can actually write some bad poetry and some terrible music. It can do a lot of things, but it doesn't understand things. It guesses a lot and relies a lot on programming. This includes auto driving software and other kinds of AI solutions.

    :D It would be very dangerous to connect your brain to an AI unit. Definitely I do not recommend it, but it is impossible to do that currently.

    The best you can do is a very crude and a temporary connection, because brains do not connect well with man-made materials. You would need a very special material that matched the qualities of brain matter in several ways: elasticity, strength, density, bending modulus, flexural rigidity --- just look up all the kinds of mechanical properties of fiber. That's what you would need, and you'd need your manmade materials to be non-allergenic and also to be long lasting. There are just so many problems that connecting electrical materials to brains never works for long.
     
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    This is evidence, that A.I. is demon possessed: ``AI (Google, Alexa, Siri) Won't Answer Who Jesus is!''
     
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    Maybe humans have not programmed it to answer who Jesus is, Maybe it is not the task of an A.I
     
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    The first use of computer capability involving the human brain will likely be memory support for the human brain. A.I. capability would like come later as again support of brain function.
     
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    In other times, you might just as justifiably say "Fact: humans can not fly".

    Just because something has not been observed yet (to your satisfaction, anyway) it hardly means that it is a fact that it can not be done.

    (Your conclusion is also a non sequitur from your own premises, but I guess that we do not need to go there).
     
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    Google and Alexa do not represent A.I. They cannot reason their responses.
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    Well, when great minds like this explain it so clearly and logically, how can one possibly disagree? Demons it is.:rolleyes:
     
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    What confuses me a bit about this thread is that OP speak of technology of today being evil toward Christianity and A.I being evil toward humans and Christianity because A.I is not as "smart" as humans.

    Am i missing something or is it a bit confusing thread?
     
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    The only thing this proves is you live in a closet of fears of imaginary Daemons, making cantations to drive them away.
     
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    I look forward to seeing all of you "Opponents" quoted in the next version of questfortruth's "Biblical schizophrenia ..." essay. :D
     
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    So... if an AI doesn't give the answer that you want, therefore it's demon possessed. Dumb.
     
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    Very true. The AIs used for Alexa, Siri, and Cortana are very simple AIs. They don't reason, and they pull information from internet, mostly from Wikipedia which isn't own by Google either as far as I know. So the answer will sometimes be stupid or incorrect. They're not perfect. I'm sure some Muslims might be upset over the "Prophet Mohammad" answers as well because they probably wanted to say something like that he was a "holy" prophet or that he was the only prophet or whatever. Anyone in any religion can be upset for almost anything because it doesn't fit some narrow mindset.
     
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  20. Evangelicalhumanist

    Evangelicalhumanist "Truth" isn't a thing...
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    AI is swiftly becoming a reality. Machines are "learning" in exactly the same way that we humans learn, by seeing, making guesses, being corrected. Only they do it at blinding speed. Humans are much more limited in the speed at which they can acquire new knowledge. (The old models for "programming intelligence" into computers have been abandoned, because, really, we always knew they wouldn't work.)

    The frightening thing, again, is that "speed" I mentioned. There is a "singularity" approaching, according to futurist Ray Kurzweil ("The Singularity is Near"). Kurzweil, in describing his law of accelerating returns, predicts exponential increases in a variety of relevant technologies, and as this "singularity" is reached, he makes a very good case that machine intelligence will be greatly more powerful than all human intelligence combined.

    What will that mean? Nobody really knows, and yet we continue to move forward, without knowing. 'Tis a bit unnerving to me.
     
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