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Who's your teacher?

Discussion in 'General Debates' started by SA Huguenot, Jun 30, 2020.

  1. SA Huguenot

    SA Huguenot Well-Known Member

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    I heard a beautifull story a few years ago, and I do not know if it is true or not, but it gave me a whole lot of direction in life.
    In the first World war, an Armenian section fighting with the British in Palestine overran a line of German led Turkish sodiers, one of the first battles led by Lord Allenby.

    An English officer and his Armenian fighters, mixed with Indian, Canadian and South African soldiers, broke through the lines after assaulting machine gun and infantery Turks.
    As the Turks gave up, one Armenian ran forward, and with his bayonette stabbed the first Turkish soldier he met, and only woonded him. As the Turk fell, trying to get out of continious stabbings, the English officer stopped the Armenian killing the Turk.

    It was an emotional experiance with the Turk grabbing hold of the offices' feet crying to be spared, and the Armenian blazed with violent craze trying to fight the officer off to kill the Turk.

    A few moments later the Armenian got to his senses, and calmed down with tears, and said:
    "They killed my parents, my wife, my children, brothers and sisters!!!"

    The officer replied: "Never allow them to be your teacher"

    I follow this advice wherever I go, and with whoever I meet.

    Now, who is your teacher? and what do you do when they practice the immoral ideology.

    Lets see... Antifa, creating street violence, being masked, cowards, spraying people with pepper, non tollerant of debates etc.
    LBGTQ and all the other QWERTY letters that spells out everyone not "White, Male and straight". Prohibiting speakers to debate, or hold seminars at universities, such as Ben Shapiro, Jordan Peterson or even Dinesh de Sousa. Forcing your vievpoint into everyone's througt, and even disrupting civilised debates.

    The leftist socialist organisations creating Racial tension, attacking anyone wearing a Maga hat, wearing a USA flag, even if it is a sticker on a vehicle, they get crazed and want to fight and loose their minds.

    What about the violence we saw in the USA after Floid was killed by a police man. Yje Black lives matter organisatin slandered this man's death with their looting, burning of churches, and buildings, killing people, and demanding the Police to be outlawed.

    What is the case?
    Well let me tell you why people follow these violent and terrible ideologies.

    Because they allow bad people to be their teachers.
    People do not realise that they remain individuals and have the choice to become a great person, or to follow the rubbish actions of the worlds worst examples of human beings.

    They are either so brainwashed by their socialist ideas, or they are themself people with low moral standards and want the rest of us to turn out the way they want us to be.

    So, what do you think.
    Are your teachers morraly an example to you?
     
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  2. Jayhawker Soule

    Jayhawker Soule <yawn> ignore </yawn>
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    ^ garbage
     
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  3. Rival

    Rival Noahide
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    Well, you're not my teacher...
     
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  4. SA Huguenot

    SA Huguenot Well-Known Member

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    why?
    Do you believe you have the right to loot, burn, murder because someone thousands of miles away murdered someone else, and you dont like it?
    I think people acting this way are mentally impared!
     
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    Thief Rogue Theologian

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    and the Carpenter cleared the Temple.....with a whip
    that He made by His own hand
     
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    The moral of the original story seemed to be that reactionary behaviour simply allows those with whom you disagree to influence your life and actions in a negative way, right?
    I think I'll heed the tales advice, and wish you a good day.
     
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  7. Heyo

    Heyo Well-Known Member

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    I like the story and the moral of it but your choice of examples lets me doubt you have understood it.
     
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  8. Tambourine

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    @SA Huguenot
    If you really believe in this idea, then I think you should try and apply it to the things you say on these boards as well.
     
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  9. SA Huguenot

    SA Huguenot Well-Known Member

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    If summarised, yes.
    But if you read the verses, you will find that Jesus used the whip on the sheep and catle, and not on the people. He did overturned their tables.
    Then again, Jesus did say this was His Father's house, and like the ignorant greedy businussmen they were, they turned God's house in a market.
    How large is your yard. I would like to hold a yardsale there every Saturday and Sunday.

    John 2: 13 to 22
    13 When it was almost time for the Jewish Passover, Jesus went up to Jerusalem. 14 In the temple courts he found people selling cattle, sheep and doves, and others sitting at tables exchanging money. 15 So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple courts, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. 16 To those who sold doves he said, “Get these out of here! Stop turning my Father’s house into a market!” 17 His disciples remembered that it is written: “Zeal for your house will consume me.”
     
  10. SA Huguenot

    SA Huguenot Well-Known Member

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    Mmmm, is it right what Antifa and BLM is doing?
    Do you agree with looting and burning your country knowing that you have the best judicial system on Earth that will hold the murderer of Floyd accountable for his deeds?
    Or do you think these people actually discredit the life of this man.
    Even if he was a drunk, addict, and had false money, still it was murder and the police man was wrong.
    And if you want to take action against this police man, what is the difference between you and the KKK who lybched black people?
    Different circumstances, but same behaviour!
     
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  11. SA Huguenot

    SA Huguenot Well-Known Member

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    There is a big difference between free speech, and looting, burning, killing...
    Now why on earth would you try to smuther words and fight for anarchy?
    Greetings
     
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    How many incidents of police not being held accountable do you want before you stop with the American exceptionalism?
     
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  13. Tambourine

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    Exactly. There is a difference between peaceful protest, and killing people.

    Therefore, we should not blame the people who are protesting nonviolently against police violence, even as they are subject to the violence they are protesting against, but the police officers who have been killing people.

    I have no idea what you mean by that question, sorry. Could you elaborate on this?
     
  14. Father Heathen

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    That was a good story, but it sounds like you should reflect upon it a bit longer and a harder, because you're attempting to drive your own bayonet into a slew of straw men.
     
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  15. Father Heathen

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    Exactly, which is why it's dishonest to conflate the handful of opportunists and agent provocateurs who loot and vandalize with the majority who are peacefully practicing their first amendment rights. Doesn't your religion forbid bearing false witness?
    Corruption, misconduct, incompetence within law enforcement is bad, especially when it comes to racial disparity. These are legitimate issues that anyone who values ethics and integrity would oppose.

    Why on earth would you beat your wife?
     
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    yeah well....I don't believe that

    picture the event as if you were there.....yes you can
    and that's how I do it

    we follow the Guy for three years
    and we are witness to a great many things

    coming into the Holy City …..He seems to be a hero

    but as we approach the Temple threshold.....He pauses to take hold of a small cord
    we watch as He ties knots into it

    it will have only one use

    He stands to the door way and makes the announcement...…..GET OUT!
    He would have to say it loudly....repeatedly
    the Temple is shoulder to shoulder as the High Sabbath is pending

    and I can hear it.....as if I am standing right there
    someone laughed

    him first.....and I bet it hurt

    Do you think no one tried to stop Him?
    strong handed men.....and no one tried?

    let's not be naïve
     
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    Aupmanyav Be your own guru

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    One can forget history only at his own cost.
     
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    It's not that good.
     
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    Looting and burning would have been wrong if there were a judicial system that would have held the murderers of George Floyd accountable.
    The experience is different.
    Did anyone take action against the police? Very few did and it would have been the wrong target anyway.
    The target are those who use the police and those who have no value for human lives or justice. They do however take notice when property gets damaged.
     
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  20. Father Heathen

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    That's exactly the problem; the judicial system can't be trusted to hold police accountable.
     
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