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Who's the whore?

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by Mujahid, Nov 16, 2005.

  1. jeffrey

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    I don't think the OP understands how a woman could love another woman. But it's not for you to understand, it's for them to understand. Like I can't understand how anybody could find Paris Hilton attractive, but some people do. Different strokes,...
    To me, a whore gets paid, a **** doesn't. Both have sex with multiple partners. During my younger days, I tried to be a ****, but failed miserably.​
    :( And I hope I misunderstood his post stating that women that have been raped are whores too?
     
  2. The Black Whirlwind

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    I think the keyword here is manslut
     
  3. Bishka

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    He said women who are raped aren't whores. I think that was it.
     
  4. Sunstone

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    I confess that I tend to think of politicians as whores. Or pimps. My apologies to any whores or pimps that are members of the forum.
     
  5. jeffrey

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    Pimp Daddy Bush.... Kind of has a ring to it. :D
     
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  6. may

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    ok, just to put the cat amongst the pigions, false religion is spoken of in the bible as a harlot,prostitute,or whore ,they all refer to the same thing

    Without a doubt this is a prostitute with worldwide influence. But she is no commonplace whore. She is "the mother of the harlots," the madam of the institution. When it comes to fornication, she gives the orders. But she also has special clients(revelation 17;2)

    This has to be an alluring harlot with good connections to be able to attract the political rulers of the world, the very "kings of the earth

    "the kings of the earth," have willingly gone to her bed of fornication. (revelation 18;3)

    Babylon the Great, the mother of harlots, is a symbol of Satan’s world empire of false religion. She is a symbol of the religions of the world that in one way or another have compromised themselves with the political and financial rulership elements down through history

    If God judged harlots adversely in ancient Israel, what will he do about modern spiritual harlotry?

    And upon her forehead was written a name, a mystery: "Babylon the Great, the mother of the harlots and of the disgusting things of the earth( revelation 17;5)


    (Revelation 18:5) For her sins have massed together clear up to heaven, and God has called her acts of injustice to mind

    yes this whore, "Babylon the Great," is denounced in Revelation chapters 17 and 18. because she is unfaithful to God and is spiritually dirty, and quess what, the bible tells Gods people to get out of her why? because she is going to be destroyed and judged by God



     
  7. retrorich

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    Do post whores count? :eek:
     
  8. Terrywoodenpic

    Terrywoodenpic Oldest Heretic

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    Pride is sinful.... What is illegal sex? sex is not necessarily sinful.

    Do you mean men are whores? some are certainly prostitutes.
    women who have sexual relations with other women are Lesbians.

    Married women who have sex with other men are adulterers. It may hurt her husband and children and she may or may not regret this.

    one of the following is not a whore:
    If you are forced to have sex. that is rape.
    Is totally innocent

    I think you need to get clear in your mind the differences between definitions...
    Whore is another word for Prostitute ...one who sells their body...can be equally male or female.

    Pride...feeling of self righteousness, often unwarranted. one of the deadly sins

    Rape...sexual act against another by physical or mental pressure.

    A person who engages in free sexual activity is not a whore or prostitute, but one who does not necessarily conform to other peoples morals. That they ( man or Woman) chose to do this is entirely their own business.

    There are more men with suspect moral values than there are women.
    Women are no more to be condemned for their morals than men.

    in your terms if a husband father brother or son. who never cares about his wifes pride has illegal sex, what does that make him?

    We have a saying what is sauce for the Goose is sauce for the gander

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    Blessed are the pure of heart, they shall behold their God.
     
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  9. may

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    Babylon was famous for—false religion. That is why the modern harlot takes the same name as the ancient city. Indeed, many of the false doctrines and practices found in modern religious Babylon can be traced directly to ancient religious Babylon. so the harlot "Babylon the Great" of our time represents the worldwide empire of false religion that has for centuries compromised herself in immoral intercourse with the world instead of being pure in serving God

     
  10. MdmSzdWhtGuy

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    Everyone responding to this thread might want to take notice that Mujahid is using the Koran as his source for the definitions of "whore" not Webster's dictionary. As such his ideas of what constitutes a whore come from 7th centuray Arabian Peninsula culture.

    Modern definitions of the word will not necessarily coincide with what Mohammed thought of as a whore. Arabian women are often killed by their families for having sex outside of marriage, keep that in mind, and his definitions make more sense.

    Modern definition of a whore is synonymous with both the definition of prostitute and ****. Refers to a woman of loose morals, sexually speaking, and to one who has sex for money. Modern definition does not refer to persons like Jensa who is in a committed relationship with one other female.

    By the way, Jensa, anyone calls you that around me, will get a medium sized knuckle sandwich. :149:

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  11. may

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    so then is false religion an unfaithful adultarous harlot ,? or is she pure to the teachings of the true God, her actions speak for them selves she is a dirty adultress. no purity in her at all.

    "And the kings of the earth who committed fornication with her and lived in shameless luxury will weep and beat themselves in grief over her, when they look at the smoke from the burning of her, while they stand at a distance because of their fear of her torment and say, ‘Too bad, too bad, you great city, Babylon you strong city, because in one hour your judgment has arrived!.........revelation 18;9-10

     
  12. MdmSzdWhtGuy

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    May, who in the world is qualified to say which religion is false and which one is the real deal? Your idea of the whore of babylon may be someone else's cosmic truth. The Jew thinks the Catholic, the Protestant and the Muslim got it wrong, the Muslim thinks the rest of them got it wrong, the JW thinks the rest of them got it wrong, and so forth and so on.

    To the Muslim, you are the whore of babylon. Don't you see that? You are practicing the false religion according to approximately one billion people on this planet. You claim they are practicing a false religion. Who is to say which of you is right? Most logical answer is neither, but I hate to bring logic into a debate on religion. Debate on the subject tends to fizzle when we do that.

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    It is foolish to think that a woman's body belongs to any of these people you have listed. She should not have to consider their feelings when deciding who she wants to f**k. Also, they should respect her rights as an individual and allow her to live life her own way.
    I'm not sure what your definition of "illegal sex" is. Do you mean illegal by your religion? Or do you mean sex acts that are outlawed by a country's legal codes? If it's the latter, then certainly a person should consider potential consequences to him or herself before breaking any laws--but breaking a law in itself does not make someone a whore.

    Just to clarify, Prostitution makes someone a whore. Indiscriminate sex without regard for consequences (like disease/infection) makes someone a "****". Male or female.
    Don't be ridiculous. The woman who has sex with other women has excellent taste.
    And what of the of the one who betrays her husband because he treats as property? Or a slave? Or as something unclean? Or a punching bag? Some men don't deserve the women they have, and it would serve such men right to be cuckolded.
    My thoughts are you should relax, it's just sex.
     
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    babylon was the seat of false religion any religion with babylonish teaching are part of babylon the great, please could you tell me what babylonish teachings JW have? , christendom are full of them, but not JW ,christendom is most guilty because she claims to represent the God of the bible but has taken on the false teaching of the immortality of the human soul, the trinity doctrine, and pagan beliefs, not a good thing to do babylonish teachings
     
  15. MdmSzdWhtGuy

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    May,

    You took a mighty whack at it and missed the softball I threw you completely.

    Tee it up and try again. The point of my post was,and is, that you think they got it wrong, and they think you got it wrong, how in the world are we ever to conclude that you are correct, or that they are correct.

    Neither side has one whit of actual evidence for their position, yet they are willing to die and kill over their chosen beleif, and are firmly convinced that they other folks got it wrong.

    My question, quite bluntly is how do you know you are right and the Muslim is wrong? or the Christian, or the Jew, or the Buddhist etc. etc. etc.

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  16. Bishka

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    I defintley agree. Who's to say whose right? If you tell a Buddhist they are going to hell, they aren't, they don't believe in hell, so how are they going? Whose to say whose religion is the most correct? I guess we'll all see who was right when we die.
     
  17. Sunstone

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    I agree with Faint that the definitions of whore in the OP seem to presuppose that women are the property of their fathers, husbands, and even their sons. That seems to me to be rather unenlightenned, to say the least. Women are not property.
     
  18. MdmSzdWhtGuy

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    Hold on a minute. In Arab culture, specifically in the time of Mohammed, they most definately were (are) property. Definitions get real tricky when we cross cultural lines.

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  19. Sunstone

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    Well, if Arab culture still treats women as property, then it needs a dose of humanism. Treating women as property is wrong, regardless of whether or not it is traditional.
     
  20. MdmSzdWhtGuy

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    Sunstone, I couldn't agree more. Problem is that if you try to inject humanism into that culture, you will end up with a fatwa written calling for your death. Tends to cut down on the criticism, I suppose.

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