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Discussion in 'Interfaith Discussion' started by Conscious thoughts, Jan 26, 2021.

  1. Conscious thoughts

    Conscious thoughts Veteran Member

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    When you speak with other religious people, who would you listen to more.

    A scholar who only have Academic education, but does not practice the religion.

    Or one who actually practice the religion daily, and study the teaching for practice in daily life?
     
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  2. Audie

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    Depends what I wanted to observe.
     
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    The practitioner, but I'd take that with a grain of salt as well. Primarily I listen to my conscience, and a trusted personal teacher.
     
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  4. loverofhumanity

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    Neither. I would conduct my own independent research and investigation.
     
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  5. SalixIncendium

    SalixIncendium अहम् ब्रह्मास्मि
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    If my intent is to understand the history of a religion, I will listen to the scholar.

    If my intent is to understand what one experiences in practice, I will listen to the practitioner.
     
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  6. Sirona

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    Depends on what I want to know. Somebody may be an academic and still have deep personal piety. A a lay person may practice the religion every day, but still lack basic knowledge about the religion question or turn it into something which could be considered wishful thinking or is not practiced that way in countries where said religion is dominant. Exchange with a learned practicioner sounds like the best way for me.
     
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    Depends what I want to know.

    I would expect the individual practitioner to be an expert in their own practice and what their religion is and feels like to them.

    I would expect the academic to know better than the practitioner about things like:

    - the diversity of belief and practice within the religion.
    - the history of the religion and why it is the way it is.
    - the impact of the religion on the world.
     
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  8. SalixIncendium

    SalixIncendium अहम् ब्रह्मास्मि
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    What resources would you be researching and investigating?
     
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  9. Estro Felino

    Estro Felino Believer in free will
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    Actually...the second one. A person who practices the religion.
     
  10. Audie

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    That is how we get such a galaxy of different
    Infallible readings.
     
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  11. SigurdReginson

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    Depends, as @Audie already stated.

    When I was a christian, I would exclusively listen to the second option, but there was a problem with that...

    When you only really listen to the viewpoints of those you agree with, you fall victum to existing inside an echo chamber. I dismissed the viewpoints of secular biblical scholars because they weren't led by the holy spirit... In retrospect, what they had was extremely valuable, though; unbiased historical context.

    If I had to do it all over again, I'd pay more attention to the scholars. I'd have a richer, more balanced understanding of my faith, I'd feel.

    That's why, when I dip my toes into druidry, I'm going to approach it with a much more open mind than I did with christianity. I'm not interested in finding things I'm happy with; I already have happiness. I'm more interested in picking at my own seams to see what unravels, so I can maybe get a deeper understanding of my own self and gain some more useful tools along the way.
     
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  12. RabbiO

    RabbiO הרב יונה בן זכריה

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    I’m confused. You say at the beginning to imagine that I’m speaking with other religious people, but then you say that apparently one of these religious people is a scholar who does not practice the religion. Are you saying that the scholar is religious, but the religion under discussion is not the scholar’s religion or.....
     
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  13. Audie

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    Picky picky
     
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  14. RabbiO

    RabbiO הרב יונה בן זכריה

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    I’ll feel more mellow after my coffee.
     
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  15. Conscious thoughts

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    I should have Said " discussing religion "
    Then used the two examples:)
     
  16. Audie

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    What kind do you like?
     
  17. Jayhawker Soule

    Jayhawker Soule <yawn> ignore </yawn>
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    Now that you have had an opportunity to read a number of similar responses to your question, I think it would be helpful if you could restate the question, answer it, and explain the reason(s) for your answer.
     
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  18. Conscious thoughts

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    My answers to my question is not important:) i was looking for how others see it.
     
  19. Audie

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    Answer the question or face the consequences!!
     
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  20. Conscious thoughts

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    Lol

    I do not listen to socalled scholars from Academica. If i was to do that they had to practice the religion them self very seriously.

    I do trust practitioners who show deep wisdom in the religion
     
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