Rubellite Fae
Yakṣī
so a bad social trend had started up and needed to be put down
flood techniques work but the trend returns
so maybe fire from heaven?
How would you justify this against the widespread claim of YHVH's omniscience?
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so a bad social trend had started up and needed to be put down
flood techniques work but the trend returns
so maybe fire from heaven?
this form we call humanHow would you justify this against the widespread claim of YHVH's omniscience?
Incorrect since it does. Do the math. Others already have: How Old Is the Earth?
Genesis says "a day". Moving the goalposts to "creative days" means the Bible is wrong, otherwise why use the term "day"? Why not say "eternal period" or some other term? No matter your answer, it does effect the literal veracity of Genesis. Now, if you concede it's parable, that's a different matter.
There are no facts so it's just a philosophical discussion.
this form we call human
is intended to form spirit
a unique spirit on each occasion
for that to happen the form is set loose to fend for itself
Go forth be fruitful and multiply
we have done that
and perhaps more than once
if the spiritual portion is not forming well.....
a purge seems the thing to do
flood
fire
famine
plague
reduce the numbers
and the survivors thank God
Correct, but that's a limitation of language, not the concept. OTOH, I'm sure there's people who believe the Universe just magically popped into existence without reason or cause.While I agree, the concept of "before time" cannot be logically conceived. It's like trying to discuss negative length.
I disagree.I think you've sorely misunderstood the pursuit of philosophy.
So, is there a verse in the Bible that says that?
I find what is a requirement for both: people called to Heaven, or called to live forever on Earth has to do with what Jesus said at Matthew 7:21 but to do God's will, God's requirements.
Requirements that require one to listen to Jesus' instructions.
Jesus' instructions such as found at Matthew 24:13-14; 28:18-20; Acts of the Apostles 1:8; John 13:34-35
Well you obviously don't if you think there is anything good about the Biblical god, if the deeds attributed to it have any credibility.
The deeds attributed to the god character are evil. You seem to be viewing it through rose coloured spectacles. Of course it is more than likely it doesn't actually exist, I hope that is the case.I believe I will line up my arguments against yours and God will be good and your view will be evil as it is already obvious that it is to me.
What is this evidence?We are Spiritual beings in our true natures. I have direct experience to this.
If you read the last line you will see it says they will inherit "paradise". Can you be completely sure that paradise means the same as heaven> The Bible is the same way. It says people may enter God's kingdom but why can't God be king of the earth? I continue to say there is nothing in Bible or Quran that actually says HEAVEN and that people will go there after death.Arabicفَمَنِ ابْتَغَىٰ وَرَاءَ ذَٰلِكَ فَأُولَٰئِكَ هُمُ الْعَادُونَ
Sher AliBut those, who seek anything beyond that are the transgressors -
Arabicوَالَّذِينَ هُمْ لِأَمَانَاتِهِمْ وَعَهْدِهِمْ رَاعُونَ
Sher AliAnd who are watchful of their trusts and their covenants,
Arabicوَالَّذِينَ هُمْ عَلَىٰ صَلَوَاتِهِمْ يُحَافِظُونَ
Sher AliAnd who are strict in the observance of their Prayers.
Arabicأُولَٰئِكَ هُمُ الْوَارِثُونَ
Sher AliThese are the heirs,
Arabicالَّذِينَ يَرِثُونَ الْفِرْدَوْسَ هُمْ فِيهَا خَالِدُونَ
Sher AliWho will inherit Paradise. They will abide therein for ever.
al-Mu`minun 23:11
This is my understanding from Quran, others could believe differently as per their religion/no-religion or faith/no-faith, please. Right, please?
Regards
"HEAVEN"If you read the last line you will see it says they will inherit "paradise". Can you be completely sure that paradise means the same as heaven> The Bible is the same way. It says people may enter God's kingdom but why can't God be king of the earth? I continue to say there is nothing in Bible or Quran that actually says HEAVEN and that people will go there after death.
Could be, should be, would be. The translators decided to us "paradise". I do not know why. But I repeat that nothing in Quran or Bible says "heaven". Maybe it could and maybe it should but it does NOT."HEAVEN"
Quran uses the Arabic word "Firdous" which has been translated as paradise , it could be translated as Heaven.
Regards
What is this evidence?
I honestly don't know. I can't remember that far back.Think back really hard. What is the very first thing you remember in life?
What is 'the installation'?Mine was the installation.
Who are they really?Many can still tell the difference from their body and who they really are.
Have you done this? Did you gain or learn anything and if you did, what is it?A good start for anyone to discover who they are is to set up a condition with very little sensory input. Find a dark quiet comfortable room. Close your eyes and focus inward. Say to yourself. It's me.
Yes, who you really are has never changed. Your focus has just been with this physical world and the lessons to be learned.
"heaven"Could be, should be, would be. The translators decided to us "paradise". I do not know why. But I repeat that nothing in Quran or Bible says "heaven". Maybe it could and maybe it should but it does NOT.