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Who was Tammuz?

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by Eyes to See, Sep 27, 2020.

  1. Eyes to See

    Eyes to See Active Member

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    Tammuz is mentioned one time in the Bible.

    Here are a few questions about him.

    Who was Tammuz?

    Where was Tammuz mentioned in the Bible?

    Where was Tammuz mentioned to be?

    What were the people, especially women, mentioned to be doing with relation to Tammuz?

    What is the symbol of Tammuz?

    What did God think of what was going on?
     
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    Ezekiel 8:14 Then he brought me to the entrance of the north gate of the house of the LORD, and I saw women sitting there, mourning the god Tammuz.

    Jarchi says this was an image, which they heated inwardly, and its eyes were of lead; and these being melted with the heat, it seemed to weep; wherefore (the women) said, it asks for an offering: but not the idol, but the women, wept. Kimchi relates various interpretations of it;

    ``some (he says) expound it by an antiphrasis, "making Tammuz glad"; in the month of Tammuz they made a feast to the idol, and the women came to make him glad: others say, that with great diligence they brought water to the eyes of the idol called Tammuz, and it wept; signifying that it desired they would worship it: others interpret the word Tammuz as signifying "burnt"; (from the words in ( Daniel 3:19 ) ; (anwtal azml) , "to heat the furnace"; as if should say, they wept for him, because he was for they burnt their sons and daughters in the fire, and the women wept for them. He further observes, that Maimonides F1 writes, that he found written in one of the books of the ancient idolaters, that there was a man of the idolatrous prophets, whose name was Tammuz; who called to a certain king, and commanded him to worship the seven stars, and the twelve signs of the zodiac, for which the king put him to a violent death; and, the same night he died, all the images from the ends of the earth gathered together to the temple of Babylon, to a golden image which was the image of the sun; and this image was hanging between the heavens and the earth, and it fell into the midst of the temple, and so all the images round about it; and it declared unto them what had happened to Tammuz the prophet; and all the images wept and lamented all that night; and when it was morning, they all fled to their temples at the ends of the earth; and this became an everlasting statute to them, that at the beginning of the first day of the month Tammuz, every year, they lament and weeps for Tammuz; and there are others that expound Tammuz the name of a beast which they worship;''but, leaving these interpretations, Tammuz was either the Adonis of the Grecians; and so the Vulgate Latin version renders it Adonis; who was a young man beloved by Venus, and, being killed by a boar, his death was lamented by her; and, in respect to the goddess, an anniversary solemnity was kept by men and women lamenting his death, especially by women. So Pausanias, speaking of a certain place, there (says he) the women of the Argives (a people in Greece) mourn for Adonis F2. Lucian

    John Gill Commentary
     
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  3. Eyes to See

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    Nice. I never read this commentary on Tammuz.

    You left questions to be answered. If you want to dig further, or if you already know you may want to enlighten us on who the Greeks borrowed their god Adonis from. And what was the symbol of this God Tammuz. Where was Tammuz being worshiped in Ezekiel 8, and what was the outcome by God?

    All these questions are leading to a very important revelation.
     
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    Please forgive my confusion @Eyes to See but what is actually being debated here?
     
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    A footnote in my Jerusalem bible says Tammuz was a "vegetation god", whose annual death and rebirth were mourned and greeted. So a bit like the Demeter and Persephone of the Greeks, apparently.
     
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    If you have something to say you should say it, not expect other people to jump through hoops while you watch.
     
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    Who Tammuz was, what was his symbol, where he was being worshipped, and how Jehovah felt about it.
     
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    What was the symbol of Tammuz? Where was he being worshipped? And what was Jehovah's thoughts on the matter? Thank you for the reference to wiki.
     
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    That is really interesting.

    Evidently the Greek story of Demeter and Persephone could have been lifted from Sumerian mythology - give or take a few sex changes. I had no idea.
     
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