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Who says there isn't an elite trying to take over?

Theweirdtophat

Well-Known Member
I wonder if anyone has read these

I don't know why some deny it even though the people that are voted in constantly reference it over and over.

"First they came for the communists,
and I did not speak out because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists,
and I did not speak out because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews
and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me...
and there was no one left to speak out for me."
~Martin Niemoeller - Prisoner in a Nazi concentration camp during WWII.

"If the American people ever allow PRIVATE BANKS [The Federal Reserve / Bank of Canada...] to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their Fathers conquered...I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies... The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs."
~Thomas Jefferson

"For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence--on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. IT IS A SYSTEM WHICH HAS CONSCRIPTED VAST HUMAN AND MATERIAL RESOURCES INFO THE BUILDING OF A TIGHTLY KNIT, HIGHLY EFFICIENT MACHINE THAT COMBINES MILITARY, DIPLOMATIC, INTELLIGENCE, ECONOMIC, SCIENTIFIC AND POLITICAL OPERATIONS. Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried, not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed."
~John F. Kennedy, The President and The Press Speech, 1961

"We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time magazine, and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their PROMISES OF DISCRETION for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to DEVELOP OUR PLAN FOR THE WORLD if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during these years. But the world is now more sophisticated and PREPARED TO MARCH TOWARDS A WORLD GOVERNMENT which will never again know war, but only peace and prosperity for the whole of humanity. The supranational sovereignty of an INTELLECTUAL ELITE and WORLD BANKERS is surely preferable to the national auto determination practiced in the past centuries."
~David Rockefeller in an address to the Bilderberger group in Baden-Baden, Germany, June 10, 1991.

“TODAY AMERICANS WOULD BE OUTRAGED IF U.N. TROOPS ENTERED LOS ANGELES TO RESTORE ORDER; TOMORROW THEY WILL BE GRATEFULl! This is especially true if they were told there was an outside threat from beyond whether real or promulgated (fake), that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will pledge with world leaders to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS WILL BE WILLINGLY RELINQUISHED for the guarantee of their well being granted to them by their WORLD GOVERNMENT."
~Henry Kissinger in an address to the Bilderberger group in Evian, France, May 21, 1992.

"For more than a century, ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate INFLUENCE THEY CLAIM WE WIELD OVER AMERICAN POLITICAL AND ECONOMIC INSTITUTIONS. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘INTERNATIONALISTS’ and of conspiring with others around the world to BUILD A MORE INTEGRATED GLOBAL POLITICAL AND ECONOMIC STRUCTURE - one world, if you will. If that’s the charge, I STAND GUILTY AND I AM PROUD OF IT.
~David Rockefeller, from his autobiography “Memoirs”

TIME Online: New World Order for the Economy -
www.time.com/time/magazine/articl ...

"In SEARCHING FOR A NEW ENEMY TO UNITE US, WE CAME UP WITH THE IDEA THAT pollution, THE THREAT OF GLOBAL WARMING, water shortages, famine and the like WOULD FIT THE BILL... All these dangers are caused by human intervention and it is only through changed attitudes and behavior that they can be overcome. THE REAL ENEMY, THEN, IS HUMANITY ITSELF."
~ The First Global Revolution: A Report by the Council of the Club of Rome (global think tank) [September, 1991]
www.clubofrome.org/eng/home/
www.amazon.com/First-Global-Revol ...

Council on Foreign Relations -
www.cfr.org/

Royal Institute of International Affairs -
www.chathamhouse.org.uk/


Oh and here is the real reason for the The Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008 (Bailout).

Sec. 8. Review.
Decisions by the Secretary pursuant to the authority of this Act are non-reviewable and committed to agency discretion, and MAY NOT BE REVIEWED BY ANY COURT OF LAW OR ANY ADMINISTRATIVE AGENCY.
New York Times - www.nytimes.com/2008/09/21/business/21draftcnd.html

I would read this and let it sink it in for a while. I know some might ask for links and I am providing some. But I want some to really read this and think about it.

I am hoping some will consider it. It may be to the point where politicians are going to flat out install martial law, call it an empire and some people will put their head in the sand and constantly deny it because it's easy to just take order and go along with it because you don't have to think for yourself and it's discomforting to realize that the government you worked along with were traitors all along to so it's much more comforting to live in fantasy, pretend that they know best and that there is no conspiracy to divide and enslave you. Living a lie is comforting but it is not right.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
Since when since the origin of hierarchical societies 5,500 years ago, has there NOT been an elite "trying" to take over? Indeed, to say they merely "try" to take over is an understatement.
 

icehorse

......unaffiliated...... anti-dogmatist
Premium Member
I'm with you at the macro level. The oligarchy is arguably our most dangerous issue.

When I have more time, I'll read your OP more carefully.
 

Jumi

Well-Known Member
Are you saying climate change is made up, because there are some elites that say (supposedly) that it's an opportunity for them?
 

Theweirdtophat

Well-Known Member
Everything is made up

Ok not everything. Our climate changes whether we add anything to it or not. What we do is not really helping though especially when there are already safer less polluting ways of making energy and ones that are free, but you can't make money on free energy.

Our world always goes through periods of heat and cold. But they are using it to their advantage to control others.
 

Jumi

Well-Known Member
Ok not everything. Our climate changes whether we add anything to it or not. What we do is not really helping though especially when there are already safer less polluting ways of making energy and ones that are free, but you can't make money on free energy.

Our world always goes through periods of heat and cold. But they are using it to their advantage to control others.
And you don't think oil companies and such are opportunists like that, using climate skeptics for their own ends?
 

TransmutingSoul

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I see a future where all the Government's of the World will be subordinate to a world Legislative elected by representitives of all Nations.

It will be better equiped than the 'United Nations'. It will have a force to maintain peace and each Nation will have given up its arms except for what is needed by its internal police forces to maintain order.

Regards Tony
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I see a future where all the Government's of the World will be subordinate to a world Legislative elected by representitives of all Nations.

It will be better equiped than the 'United Nations'. It will have a force to maintain peace and each Nation will have given up its arms except for what is needed by its internal police forces to maintain order.

Regards Tony
Will never happen.

The Constitution will not go down without a fight.
 

TransmutingSoul

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Will never happen.

The Constitution will not go down without a fight.

The Constitution will be far from peoples minds, as an unbridled nationalism is a 'world devouring fire which none can quench'.

America faces a future where it will aid the world spiritually and also be foremost in bringing about the peace of humanity.

America will suffer greatly in this process and many cities will not remain standing. It has been foreseen that Americans will become refugees.

I wish you well in this process, a process now at a critical hour and fast unfolding.

Regards Tony
 

Kangaroo Feathers

Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
Will never happen.

The Constitution will not go down without a fight.
It will never happen as longvas people think "the Constitution" is some sacred, intrinsic good, rather than a tool.

(Always bemuses me seeing the people who speak about "the Constitution" in such reverent, hushed tones, are usually the same people keen to ignore large chunks of it whenever it's inconvenient. Trump supporters, we're looking at you...)
 

Kangaroo Feathers

Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
The Constitution will be far from peoples minds, as an unbridled nationalism is a 'world devouring fire which none can quench'.

America faces a future where it will aid the world spiritually and also be foremost in bringing about the peace of humanity.

America will suffer greatly in this process and many cities will not remain standing. It has been foreseen that Americans will become refugees.

I wish you well in this process, a process now at a critical hour and fast unfolding.

Regards Tony
"It has been forseen" huh? Could you forsee next week's powerball numbers for me, too, please?
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
Will never happen.

The Constitution will not go down without a fight.
The US Constitution pretty much served as the platform that the UN's Declaration of Human Rights is based on. It didn't plagiarize the Constitution as much as Jefferson plagiarized Locke when he wrote the Constitution, but the influence is definitely there.
 

Theweirdtophat

Well-Known Member
I think only a world government would work if all of us became enlightened. Basically if we were all Buddhas. But city mayors can get corrupt with power. Even if your intentions are good. Giving one or even a few people power over an entire world isn't good because they will likely get corrupt very easily. We all have to move on and leave our child like minds behind us and evolve further before that can happen.

Some say it's corrupt rich folks only, others say it's aliens or people working with aliens or something entirely different but it hardly matters. All I know is there are bad people out there and want to take over everything. Every single country is in danger of these people. Which is all the more reason to unite.
 

TransmutingSoul

Veteran Member
Premium Member
It isn't gambling if you actually have the power to forsee, is it? So I guess that was just an idle boast, huh?

It is not something I have foreseen.

You will view the world how you wish to and I am not here to motivate you to look at it in any other way but as you choose to.

Regards Tony
 
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