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Who killed JFK?

Who killed President John Fitzgerald Kennedy?

  • Without question, Oswald acted alone in killing JFK. The possibility of a conspiracy is infinite

    Votes: 2 7.7%
  • Oswald probably acted alone in killing JFK, but I'm not certain that there wasn't a conspiracy

    Votes: 6 23.1%
  • Oswald was one of the shooters, but there was probably a second shooter (no "magic bullet")

    Votes: 2 7.7%
  • Oswald was one of the shooters, and he was working for certain elements in US intelligence

    Votes: 1 3.8%
  • Oswald was one of the shooters, and he was working for the Mob

    Votes: 1 3.8%
  • Oswald was one of the shooters, and he was working for the Soviets

    Votes: 1 3.8%
  • Oswald was innocent and "just a patsy" as he said

    Votes: 4 15.4%
  • Other explanation

    Votes: 4 15.4%
  • Who cares? What's done is done, and it doesn't matter much anymore

    Votes: 7 26.9%

  • Total voters
    26

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
When the Mafia operates...it is all perfectly planned. They prepare all the evidence that will lead the law enforcement towards a scapegoat. A patsy...and that was Oswald.
But in order to prevent this patsy from speaking in a courtroom, they will have him killed before the trial begins.
And this is a pattern many criminologists and DIA* judges have always spoken about with so many examples.

*Italian AntiMafia Police Department
Without evidence for the claim, I'll avoid believing conspiracy theories.
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
It turns out the Mafia was behind it...since the heroic Robert Kennedy was fighting it.
And since I am from that country...I have read enough criminology books to know how these criminals operate.;)

James Files claims he killed John F Kennedy as he prepares for his release - People's Daily Online

The Kennedys definitely angered certain segments of America. Their support of civil rights, integration, and racial equality certainly made them a lot of enemies in various sections of America, including Dallas. They also appeared to be soft on communism, which also angered the hard-liners.

One person who really hated RFK was J. Edgar Hoover, and that's not the kind of man you wanted as an enemy if you wanted to have a job in Washington DC.

The situation is often portrayed as the Kennedys being young liberal idealists who were too naive to know what they were up against and perhaps too cavalier about their own personal safety. Going into a hostile city like Dallas in an open motorcade like that seems poor judgment.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
The Kennedys definitely angered certain segments of America. Their support of civil rights, integration, and racial equality certainly made them a lot of enemies in various sections of America, including Dallas. They also appeared to be soft on communism, which also angered the hard-liners.

One person who really hated RFK was J. Edgar Hoover, and that's not the kind of man you wanted as an enemy if you wanted to have a job in Washington DC.

The situation is often portrayed as the Kennedys being young liberal idealists who were too naive to know what they were up against and perhaps too cavalier about their own personal safety. Going into a hostile city like Dallas in an open motorcade like that seems poor judgment.

Of course. And MLK was murdered too...let us not forget that.
As I was just saying, the Mafia was hired to do the job in both murders.
Even if from those murders so many people benefitted.
Who probably implicitly okayed the murders.
 
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Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Without evidence for the claim, I'll avoid believing conspiracy theories.

Yes. I just don't understand this:
Oswald said : " it was not me. I am just the patsy ".
And they told him : " no, you are a liar"

James Files said : " It was me and Nicoletti who killed JFK. "
And they told him : " no you are a liar".

But it is either/or. Tertium non datur.

So I do think that people will believe what they wanna believe.;)
 

MNoBody

Well-Known Member
WHO?......
The Victor,
the one whose story we are all consenting to, since history is the propaganda of the victor.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Yes. I just don't understand this:
Oswald said : " it was not me. I am just the patsy ".
And they told him : " no, you are a liar"

James Files said : " It was me and Nicoletti who killed JFK. "
And they told him : " no you are a liar".

But it is either/or. Tertium non datur.

So I do think that people will believe what they wanna believe.;)
Aye, people will believe what they want.
I'll remain agnostic about how deep the plot goes.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Very well, but I'm surprised you never heard the magic bullet theory.
I tend to not remember some loopy conspiracy details.
"Magic bullet" has the ring of something not memorable.
(I have much experience with bullets. Magic never happened.)
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
I tend to not remember some loopy conspiracy details.
"Magic bullet" has the ring of something not memorable.
(I have much experience with bullets. Magic never happened.)

In this case, the loopy detail in question was endorsed by the Warren Commission, the same ones who said there wasn't a conspiracy.
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
This thread was brought to you by the Tin-foil Hat Manufacturers Association.
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Do you trust the FBI of that time?
I do not;)
Careful. I could be an FBI informant. Or even a spy for the CIA!

Or not.

And I was nowhere near the grassy knoll in 1963. That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Do you trust the FBI of that time?
I do not;)
The FBI & other organizations can be judged somewhat
by the Snowden standard, ie, the occurrence of credible
whistle blowers. What has come up that is a cromulent
refutation of their reporting?

BTW, I don't know about any such refutations. I'm just
pointing out a useful standard. Applied to things like
claims of faked Moon landings & 9/11 truthers, the
government line is far & away the more credible than
the conspiracy theorists.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Who killed JFK?

I can guarantee it wasn't me beyond that, who knows?
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
The FBI & other organizations can be judged somewhat
by the Snowden standard, ie, the occurrence of credible
whistle blowers. What has come up that is a cromulent
refutation of their reporting?

Modern penal science is almost exclusively based upon Non-juridic sciences like psychology.
The culprit's psyche is studied thoroughly to understand motives...which help a jurist understand the crime as phenomenon.

Honestly...I am not interested in being right. I can be wrong, and I hope to be wrong.:)
But I did study this case for years, because criminology is my passion (also helped by my colleagues).

"Conspiracy" is an overused term...I believe...because anything in penally relevant facts is a conspiracy. Like in the case of fraudulent bankruptcy..the entrepreneur accused of that crime, could think he is victim of a "conspiracy".
 
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