x.x cup.... why did you resurrect a topic last active in 2008 (which is really a topic that was last active in 2006) when you JUST posted in a near identical topic 'who is the devil?'
Actually I have absolutely no idea exactly what was posted or active in 2008 and the 2006 thing is something I can't really relate to; however, THE QUESTION REGARDING "WHO IS THE DEVIL" can often be best defined in the manner for which I recorded in the post.
You know:
Informedigorance: There are many millions of Christian and even non-Christian people alike out there in our highly diversified thinking world of some 6 1/2 billions people of today who really think and deeply believe the old Devil and/or old Satan just sort of popped his bad old self right out of the mysterious woodwork of, o-well, exactly what person today knows exactly where the Devil and/or Satan actually came from.
To be extremely frank here, the above way of extremely bandy thinking and/or even attempting to relate one's self to the existence od "A Devil" and/or even for one to best understand the adverse workings and the extremely evil existence of Satan just sort of puts a very huge dampering downgrade on infallible Biblical truth it also slightly undermines everything relating to the absolute surpreme perfection abilities of the same recorded God found within the pages of the triditional King James Verson Bible.
I just have to tell ya; I only consider and I only personally relate to the "triditional" King James Bible; although, I have deeply studied most all Biblies and most all religions around the world, and I have done so for some 45 to 46 years now.
I speake some Hebrew and some Greek, And believe it or not, there is absolutely not one religion or any religious text on this planet earth that was not fashioned and/or written by the mortal hands of some collection of human being...!
Which text offers the world absolute undeniable and refuritable evidence and factual truth, "
any more that another...?" So, for anyone to best determine this fact, this can only be done by a singel beholder (it's personal...!). Another thing for us extreme theological thinking modern-day intellectuals to also consider here is this:
When we limited thinking concrete thinking human being's begin to closely compare any and all modern-day forms of Christianity, and/or just any kind of personal ideas, opinions based upon any religion aganist the modern-day personal opinions, ideas, guesswork, and the such, those based entirely upon the
Theorie of Human Eveolution, then, the only way anyone on earth can see any differences between these two extreme widely accepted modern-day fields of growing human interest is, absolutely not one of these two major modern-day beliefs has any clear (none-reconstructed) physical evidenece for which to support and/or to back up any of todays widely unproven Christian and non-Christian claims.
Case in point:
Has anyone on planet earth today actually seen the one true God with their eyes, the one who created the entire human race...? Has anyone on planet earth today ever seen that same Biblically recorded God, the one found in our own Bible's, spiritually inspire even one of those widely recorded ancient-day prophets of old, who is so widely recorded throughout the Holy Scriptures...?
Do people today actually think there is anyone around today who was even "there" when God actually spoke out aloud and gave the ten commandmaents to Moses...? Also: and furthermore; Is there anyone alive on planet earth today who was actually standing there two thousand years ago, when the Romans naild Jesus Christ to the cross...?
Have we ever wondered just how long such evidence(s) would really hold up in any of todays courts of law...? O-Well---If the truth were really admitted by any of our major Christian leader's of today and the actual truth were strickly applied and even acknowledged by any and all of our scientific resercher's of today, then I wonder, would there be even one truthful person on planet earth who can honestly say that any and all religious text, those we are aware of today was
"NOT" composed and "
NOT" based upon mere human assumption, and then admit that all personal beliefs (scientific or otherwise) is really noting but mere second hand news, based upon ancient-day hearsay used as modern-day evidence...?
Informedigorance: Until HUman Evolution researcher's can actually produce the actual male and female ape (or monkey) that truly produced and/or sired the entire human race, The Theory of Human Evolution will always remain nothing more than what it claims itself to be today, which is a mere THEORY."
Likewise, until someone within or throughout the religious and/or Christian fields of interest can actually produce indesputable evidence that the Holy Bible is or any other so-called religious text was Godly created, than, logic demands, any and all religions text (Christian and/or otherwise) will always remain exactly what it is, it's nothing more than a "
BLIND FAITH" Biblical concept, which both fields of interest is actually based upon people's personal beliefs, and all of this is even born from the ancient sands of time itself.
The way I see it, if I were going to believe in some filed of interest or in just anything people tend to place some form of faith in, I believe I would rather choose a belief system that offered me something in return other than I came from the apes and monkey's and somthing very, very personal in return for my loyal dayily favors. It just so happens I believe in the trditional King James Bible. At least I am offered entrnal life for my BLIND FAITH favortisim.
I believe there is a real Satan and I believe Satan was once the archangel Lucifer, which I also believe what the Bible tells me about the creation of Lucifer who also became ego sick and altered into Satan.
Now, the Bible tells me God is the one and only creator who created Lucifer, and from that creation Satan was born. For anyone to think and/or believe this same God had absolutely nothing at all to do with that strange adverse birth (Satan) is absolutely not very logical, because that same God is absolutely "
all knowing" and also He is absolutely "
all wise."
Frankly to be honest, for anyone on earth to actually think and/or even believe God did not have any idea, and know about, or see what was going to unfold from within the Godly created archangel Lucifer, long before it such an adverse action actually unfolded, is also not very spiritually intellectual and its not being logical at all...! By the way, there is nothing in the Holy Bible that tells ud Satan has any Godly type creative powers (like God) at all...!
The question above: "
WHO IS THE DEVIL...?" That is waht I focused upon. It should also be clear, the Devil is a Godly created aspect of Gods' full creative intentions, which also means, God must have had a very good reason for the Devil's strange presence here on our planet earth. Think about this, where would our human salf will have come from or have evolved other than from the spiritual death of Adam and Eve, and eactly how would such an event came about without Satan who came from the creative handiworks of God through Lucifer...?
Well, enough said, see ya later.........
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