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Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by Unveiled Artist, Nov 19, 2020.

  1. Unveiled Artist

    Unveiled Artist Windmills of your mind

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    Can/do you look up to someone today as you would/do teachers who lived in 6th BC?

    What happened in approximately 2,000 years or so that we may choose or do not (for whatever reason) look up to people today as we do those written in a book or passed down by oral tradition?

    I know 1980s is different than 1990s. Likewise, different mindset and technology of 1990s compared to 2020. People in the 80s would probably not fathom what we know today. People in the 60s and 70s have not yet heard of color television. However, we may look at the past with admiration and awe but not in religious worship or an idol one would base their life on. We do that with people 2,000 years ago.

    What's the difference between now and then?

    It is also interesting to note 1800s Bahallah was around, people worship him. That wasn't too long ago. Though the question may be the same since time difference shouldn't make a difference in who one worships and who one does not. Assumingly?
     
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  2. MNoBody

    MNoBody Well-Known Member

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    I do appreciate people who demonstrate noble qualities*, and anyone can do it..... from the mouths of babes even....
    [*compassion, competence, benevolence, love]
     
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  3. Fool

    Fool ALL in all
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    i look up to no person i look to the ideal of love as unconditional, not a respecter of person, to treat all the way the all as one should be treated, even my enemy
     
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    Yes. I have a huge respect for Aries and Leos and women Capricorns.
     
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    Yes, to look up to someone, He should be really dead it seems ... I think 2000 year is a good interval to be sure someone is dead. Especially, because some walk out of their graves, I read, and others even return out of the blue in certain intervals. Makes it all a little hard to grasp for us

    But I do think that there is another more simple reason for this. When someone is still a Saint after 2000 years, it's easier to trust. Someone who just has been a saint for 100 years is a bit harder, because even scientists many times change their formulas before they are proven to be perfect. Same in the spiritual field I guess.

    Yes, or even more hard to believe in Sai Baba of Shiridi (died 1918 I think) or Sai Baba of Parthi (died 2011):D. I believe in both.

    Disclaimer: All I wrote above is only my personal opinion (I am not into proselytizing anyway), and I don't talk about Corona virus
     
  6. Nakosis

    Nakosis crystal soldier
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    My children. They have to grow up in, survive a world that seems a lot less certain than I did.
     
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    Personally I think looking up to people is a problem, it leads to idol worship and is still in plenty of supply today. What we need is respect of people and there works and there are plenty of people that I respect and there works but I aspire to learn from there works and create something new. I don't try to promote their ideal's but incorporate their ideal's into mine. I am thankful to be able to learn and grow from them. It is when we a children that we worship most but as adults we need to respect others and ourselves and no longer worship other humans.
     
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    Time weeds out the colloquial, leaving only the most relevant and universal ideals, standing.

    I don't "look up to" people. But I admire some of the ideals that some people represent and try to embody.
     
  9. ChristineM

    ChristineM "Be strong" I whispered to my coffee.
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    I can't say i look up to anyone but some people have earned my respect.
     
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    Gargovic Malkav Active Member

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    I knew this guy named Mark whom I looked up to.
    He's not too bright, but he's over 2 meters tall, so yeah...
     
  11. ChristineM

    ChristineM "Be strong" I whispered to my coffee.
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    Ha, i should have mentioned my height, 5:10 plus 6 inch heels, most people look up to me...
     
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    unconditional love -priceless
    ............respect -earned
     
  13. Unveiled Artist

    Unveiled Artist Windmills of your mind

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    Can you look up to a person you don't worship?
     
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    SomeRandom Still learning to be wise

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    Uhh Batman?
     
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    Head in the clouds eh?
     
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  16. ChristineM

    ChristineM "Be strong" I whispered to my coffee.
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    Yesterday my head was most definitely in the clouds, the cloud didn't lift until gone lunchtime. Like living in a cold, damp, grey dome.
     
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    play some music, it helps me lift myself out of the funk zone, anything at all will serve for the moment to get the rhythm going lift your vibe up.
    like this guy:)
     
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    As I said I don't look up to people or worship people, I learn about people so that I can respect them and there work and my goal is to have others respect me.
     
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  19. Unveiled Artist

    Unveiled Artist Windmills of your mind

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    How does respect them for their work and looking up to a person (not worship) different?
     
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    Looking up to a person is still putting them on a pedestal above you. Believing in some extent that they are better than you. It is idolizing, a form of worship. You are not realizing that they are human and have flaws sometimes great flaws. You become blinded by there one attribute and ignore there lesser attributes.

    Respect is about giving credit where it is do. You understand their contributions value to you and give them credit for it. You separate their other attributes and can value them similarly.

    In short Looking up to a person is given, no one actively seeks being looked up to. Respect is earned through accomplishment and desired by others.
     
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