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Discussion in 'Philosophy' started by idea, Oct 9, 2015.

  1. idea

    idea Well-Known Member

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    What do we say "I have a __________ "
    vs. what do we say
    "I am __________ "

    I have an idea, I have a body, I have a toothache, I have ADD

    I have statements seem to indicate that who we are is not our body (are we not materialistic beings?), we are not our ideas, etc...


    I am creative, musical, artistic, tall, a Christian, etc. ...

    Fill in the blanks -
    I have a ____________ (this is not you, it is just things you have)

    I am ____________ (this is who we actually are?)
     
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  2. Saint Frankenstein

    Saint Frankenstein ᛘᛁᛏᚾᛁᚴᚼᛏ᛫ᛋᚢᚾ
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    MARCELLO Transitioning from male to female

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    We are all what we are programmed to be, if you like it or not, but we are more than just the mind body orgasm, we are all there IS, we are the pure Source, pretending that we are mind body, its all a game, and you are the game, realized this and the game is finished, you are now that which IS.
     
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    Hmmm...unless it's very temporary I tend to put it in the "I am ______" category. I won't put all that here, but I do think it's an important question.
     
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  6. PeteC-UK

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    Hi Folks..

    Interesting thread...:)

    Actually - Id say - most people have no real clue as to who they are,in truth...Most people identify fully,with their immediate circumstances,and that defines them fully...The swap and change their self constantly,forget Who they are and allow the world to dominate and literally dicate their actions...

    For instance - take the emotion of love - we can have the most all consuming emotinal bond fo rour spouse - but then they do something "wrong" and immediatly we forget that core of Self,and react - often without thinking - and often in a totally contrary manner to our core intent..All too often love becomes hatred over nothing more than a few mis spoken words said in angry haste and forgetfulness..

    We forget our Self all to easily - and that is becasue,sadly,most dont even Know their true Self to begin with..Consider for instance - the continual conversation in your mind - how do you actually address your Self..?...

    Do you think in terms of "I must" do this,go there,be that etc etc......Or do you think in terms of "You must" do this,go there,be that etc...Or even - do you think in terms of "we must" do this go there be that etc etc..?...

    Do you see..?...How we address our Self in our own mind,gives a real big clue to how we actually perceive our valid nature...Thinking in terms of "i" individual self - is purely mortal,and this is not Who You are....Thinking in terms of "You" is likewise,individualised,seperate thinking mind - as if there are now "two" people each seperate from the other - and although this is indeed,how the mind works,with a definate divide and division (at first),but still,this divided mind,is not who we are either (indeed,this divided mind causes us all our problems,especially the emotional kind)...

    Thinking though in terms of "We" - shows that the mind is unified and whole - far mre authentic than just the surface mind,surface identity,continually changing and swapping..."We" thoughts,can be trusted fully - when the mind says "we must do " blank blank - then it pays us well to follow that prompt...Only a unified mind addresses it Self as "we" - and only a unified mind knows the axtual truth of Self..

    Examine yourself - but dont be surpised to find you are currently a contrary Being - often swapping Self identity,and th e"bleifs" that go with it of ocurse,and in that process losing touch with the core and authentic Self,sometimes completly so..It is true that we are a "prgrammed Being" - the world out there wil dictate our tuth if we allow it - but underneath it all - found within a Silent empty mind - is a core,authentic Self that is fully beyond such mortal definitions,and always and fully realises the truth of its existance....As my mate Christ said - find that within you,bring it forth here and now - Know thy Self,become known and all the mysteries become likewise revealed...
     
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  7. idea

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    I have a mind, I have a body, I have nouns
    I am not a noun.

    I am thoughtful, I am fat/skinny/beautiful/ugly... I am adjectives,
    I am thinking, I am listening, I am verbs.
    I think therefore I am.
    I am that I am, the great I am.

    I am eternal and uncreated, I am self-existent, I am self-caused.
     
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  8. BSM1

    BSM1 Who's a good boy?

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    I am Inigo Montoya, which is just as accurate as saying I am anything or anyone else.
     
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    BSM1 Who's a good boy?

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    But I am fairly certain that I did not kill you father.
     
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    But a recipe is more than just a collection of it's ingredients.
     
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    Revoltingest Greased up & ready for action!
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    So you are part Revoltingest?
    That is a brave admission.
    (It would be OK to retract it.)
     
  17. idea

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    To be, or not to be
    the actor, or the acted upon?
    We face each other as God intended. Sportsmanlike. No tricks, no weapons, skill against skill alone.

    "I am not what I ought to be.
    I am not what I want to be.
    I am not what I hope to be.
    But still, I am not what I used to be.
    And by the grace of God,
    I am what I am." - John Newton
     
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    Sam I am.
     
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    I am happy!
     
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