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Who are the 'lost sheep' of Israel that Jesus spoke of?

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by Gnostic Seeker, Oct 22, 2014.

  1. Robert.Evans

    Robert.Evans You will be assimilated; it is His Will.

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    Do you seriously think He would leave everything so easy to see, to understand? Scripture has always been about those in and those out. That is the way it is.
     
  2. paarsurrey

    paarsurrey Veteran Member

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    Torah and Gospels are pseudo history. I agree with you.
    Gospels copy/plagiarize/adapt from Torah as per your understanding.

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  3. Robert.Evans

    Robert.Evans You will be assimilated; it is His Will.

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    The Torah and Gospels are history. But it is written by many hands and many stories encapsulated into one finished article. So you might only get one sentence out of a paragraph about the people you 'think' you are talking about. It is therefore history, but not as we would normally call history, as you have to understand the language. That is not even easy for a believer let alone a non...
     
  4. paarsurrey

    paarsurrey Veteran Member

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    That is why it is called pseudo history.

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  5. Robert.Evans

    Robert.Evans You will be assimilated; it is His Will.

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    'pseudo' means: not authentic, or, not genuine.

    It is genuine it is authentic. It is history but it is snapshots of history. You want it written a certain way to conform with your own ideas. You cannot dismiss something that is true as being 'not genuine' when it is. That is not right.
     
  6. oldbadger

    oldbadger Skanky Old Mongrel!

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    Jesus didn't mean 'The Jews'..... he only meant the lowest 5 classes of the Jews. He considered all of the High classes of Jews to be despicable, just as John the Baptist did. But his mission was for the lowest classes of Jews only, for they were the the only Jews practising the pure way of life.

    Much of what Jesus said was twisted and turned by the evangelicals, such as Paul. I think that your ideas about this are probably 'Pauline'.
     
  7. roger1440

    roger1440 I do stuff

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    The sign of Jonah was Jonah being three days and nights in the belly of a great fish. The sign itself points to the prayer of Jonah. Without Jonah’s prayer there is no sign.
     
  8. paarsurrey

    paarsurrey Veteran Member

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    I agree with you.

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