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Which Church has the best artwork?

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by yaddoe, Mar 28, 2013.

  1. yaddoe

    yaddoe Kyle Adams

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    Is it just me or do the Latter-day Saints have the best artwork?

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    Shiranui117 Pronounced Shee-ra-noo-ee
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    The Orthodox INVENTED Christian art. ;) They're filled with teaching, and have both educated and inspired at least a billion Orthodox Christians over the years--and the non-Orthodox as well!

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    ^Vladimir Theotokos, written hundreds of years ago.

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    ^Just one small part of the New Gracanica Monastery here in the US.. ;)
     
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    Roman Catholic or Orthodox. No question.
     
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    They are difficult to do, no question about it, Michalangelo on his back painting the Sistine Chapel and all, but they have a different feel to them. Which do I enjoy looking at more?

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    The two traditions present an entirely different impetus. From what I see here, Mormon artwork is geared toward an emotional appeal, and presents Jesus in a specific theological framework, through a more cataphatic approach as to who Jesus is. Orthodox artwork, OTOH, is geared toward a contemplative appeal, and presents Jesus in a broader theological framework, from a more apophatic approach as to the nature of God.
     
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    dyanaprajna2011 Dharmapala

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    I've always been partial to Eastern Orthodox iconography. As far as a comparison between the EO and LDS goes, the LDS is much more down-to-earth, so to speak, while the EO is much more mystical and otherworldly.
     
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  10. ChristineES

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    If I go by the artwork and I count people like Michelangelo and Leonardo, I would say the Catholic Church has some astounding artwork. :)
     
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    We as LDS are very symbolically driven in our theology. I believe that our artwork is more emotive than symbolic. The traditional/ancient Christian artists tended to create artwork with a large amount of symbolism and they appear to have most aspects very intentional. It is an odd comparative. I prefer the LDS artwork for the return to a simple view of Christ, a presentation of what I believe He was like while he walked the Earth. LDS artwork tends to be a reminder that while Christ is God, he is an intensely personal God. However, the traditional is wonderful as well in it's deeply symbolic nature.
     
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    Then why does all of the LDS artwork presented in this thread depict Jesus as a handsome, well-groomed white guy?
     
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    ChristineES Tiggerism
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    I don't think that really matters. ;)
     
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    ImmortalFlame Well-Known Member

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    It doesn't make you at all uncomfortable that any Christian institution would routinely depict Jesus - a poor carpenter born in Judea two-thousand years ago - as looking like a contemporary, attractive and extraordinarily white guy? I get that "it's the message that counts", but if that's true, why the change in the first place? We know Jesus wasn't white, so why is it acceptable to depict him as such? If people don't care, why not depict him as looking like he most likely did? And why would they choose, instead, to depict him as white?

    Am I the only person who still finds this weird, and kind of racist?
     
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    I wouldn't say racist- people throw out the race card too much nowadays. People have been showing Jesus like that for 2,000 years, it's nothing new. We all know by now that Jesus didn't look like that. People tend to draw Jesus in ways that looks like themselves- like Michelangelo painted him and carved him to look Italian. ;)
     
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    I like the Rasta depiction.

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    So that makes it okay?

    And that's just as bad, too.

    I'm sorry, but this is an aspect of Christian iconography I've always had a massive issue with. Do you honestly see nothing wrong whatsoever with the Churches propagation of the image of their chosen savior as a clean-cut white guy when we know, for a fact, he was not? Do you not see any hint of racism in the act of white-washing a religious figure?

    If I airbrushed a picture of Chuck Berry and started telling people he was a white guy, I'd expect to be immediately chastised. And yet it's okay for the Church to continue presenting an image of Jesus that doesn't remotely fit with reality? Again, I ask, why did the change occur in the first place? Is there any reason other than racism to depict Jesus as being white in popular imagery?

    And lo, Simon did say unto Christ "rocking dreads, my lord!"
     
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    "Blessed by thy name, mon."
     
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    I'm not sure "racist" is quite proper, although "egocentric" may be closer. The problem with depicting God (or Jesus) is that we tend to envision them in our own way. Alfred Burt's carol, Some Children See Him is apropos: "Some children see him lily white, the baby Jesus born this night...some children see him bronzed and brown, the Lord of heaven to earth come down," etc. I think that's why I cotton to the EO artwork the most; it's the least realist, so allows one to see through the work itself, to the idea behind the work. It becomes, not so much "this is what Jesus looks like," as it does, "this is who Jesus is."
     
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    I agree. It's in virtually every culture Jesus has been altered to reflect those values to some extent.

    Think of Germanic Christianity and how much Jesus almost looks more like a Viking God.

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