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Where Tribulation Begins

Discussion in 'Christianity in General DIR' started by Mindonfire, May 4, 2006.

  1. Mindonfire

    Mindonfire Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Where Tribulation Begins

    Tribulation: Function: noun : distress or suffering resulting from oppression or persecution; also : a trying experience

    Where does the tribulation of God originate? Most believers today have developed a very dangerous mind-set. They are of the attitude that since they have not been in any tribulation as of yet , this then means that the tribulation period has not yet begun. This mind-set stems from believers having failed to fully grasp the dynamics of the tribulation period. Believers must comprehend these dynamics, or they will not understand the events which are currently taking place right in front of their very eyes.

    We must continue to understand that the tribulation period is one of God’s vehicles of judgement. It is used to remove the wicked and unrighteous from the Heaven and the earth.. As I have stated before, during this period of wrath man will witness the execution of God’s judgement upon the godly and ungodly alike. Those believers who are rooted and grounded in the true word of God will be prepared and remain, while those believers who are ill equipped will be pulled up and thrown into the flames along with the rest of the ungodly.

    Now we must all understand that the tribulation of the world has a starting point and an ending point. It will originate in one part of the universe and spread until it has encompassed the whole earth. Since we now know that the tribulation period is the execution of Divine judgement upon the world, we need to find the scripture or scriptures which deals with the beginning and ending of God’s judgment. By finding this scripture or scriptures we will be able to see where the tribulation begins and ends. Two of these scriptures are found in Roman’s 2:9 and 1Peter 4:17. {Romans 2:9 Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;}{1 Peter 4:17For the time [is come] that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if [it] first [begin] at us, what shall the end [be] of them that obey not the gospel of God?}
    As you can see from the scripture God’s judgement or tribulation always begins in his own house with His own people.

    So now since judgement begins in the house of God, this then brings us to a new question. Where is God’s house located? This does not seem to be a very difficult question. After all many of us are aware of the fact that God makes his primary residence in a place called Heaven. But by saying that God is in Heaven still does not give us the primary location of his house. It just brings us to another question. Where is this Heaven located? Now this question has an increased level of difficulty, because contrary to what many of you have been taught Heaven, is not situated somewhere in space.

    Believers must come to the realisation that Heaven is not only located in the spiritual realm. Heaven also occupies a real place in the material realm. Heaven is a real place that is situated somewhere on the real planet. It has real living people (Matt. 22:32, Mark 12:27, Rev 19:1), it has real tables laden with real foods (Luke 14:15, 22:30 ), it has real animals (Hosea 7:12, Rev 19:17), it has real armies (Rev 19:14) and it has real wars (Rev. 12:7).

    Heaven is also known as paradise. It is the place where a real Adam and Eve dwelt before they were ousted. It is a place that has always been coveted and taken by real force, by all of the real great powers of the earth. This is why Messias states in Matthew 11:12{And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force}. It is a real kingdom where the spiritual trumps the material. In Heaven real people worship God in Spirit and in Truth. The real inhabitants here (God’s sheep)care more about pleasing God than pleasing themselves. It is a place where the real things of God are sacred and real men and women reverence and venerate the word of God. And it is the place where the real God and the real Messias dwell (Matt 16:28).

    Likewise this is presently the place where the real great dragon who is also called the devil, and Satan has trespassed (Rev 12:9).This is where he and his real earthly minions have caused the real people of God (God’s sheep) great distress and suffering (tribulation). This is where the real Messias and his real angels will wage war to remove the real dragon and his real angels (Rev. 12:7-8). And from here the real Messias will rule all the nations with a rod of iron (Rev 12:5, 19:15) This is where the tribulation or the judgement of God has already begun. Here is where the kingdom of God will grow from a tiny unapparent seed. It will increase, expand and spread till it encompasses and consumes all the other nations. Only with true discernment and understanding will you be able to identify this real place.

    “You have the right to remain ignorant and refuse to gain knowledge.
    Anything that you don’t know can and will be used against you in the court of Life

    “The Two Books Are One”

    Luke 17:20And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:

    Romans 2:9Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;

    2 Thessalonians 1:6Seeing [it is] a righteous thing with God to recompense tribulation to them that troubleyou;