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Where Is The Kingdom Of God?

Scuba Pete

Le plongeur avec attitude...
Well, I can't help it if you don't understand... I have tried to use the scriptures to make it all plain for you. :D
 

verita

Member
NetDoc said:
Well, I can't help it if you don't understand... I have tried to use the scriptures to make it all plain for you. :D
OK if you really have wisdom and understanding, explain where is the kingdom of God according to the bible and not according to your own words. I want verse and not speculation.

We will see who among us have understanding. :D
 

Scuba Pete

Le plongeur avec attitude...
If you expect to just use verse, you will go the way of the Pharisee. You HAVE to use the Spirit to understand God.

II Corinthians 3:17 Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. 18 And we, who with unveiled faces all reflect the Lord's glory, are being transformed into his likeness with ever-increasing glory, which comes from the Lord, who is the Spirit. NIV

I have already presented Luke 17... WE are the Kingdom of the Christ. There is no other and Hell can not overcome us.

Colossians 1:13 For he has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of the Son he loves, 14in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins. NIV

But if you are trying to find it through your own efforts, like the Pharisees, you will surely fail.
 

verita

Member
NetDoc said:
If you expect to just use verse, you will go the way of the Pharisee. You HAVE to use the Spirit to understand God.

Isa 34:16 Seek ye out of the book of the LORD, and read: no one of these shall fail, none shall want her mate: for my mouth it hath commanded, and his spirit it hath gathered them.
You see, the instruction is to seek from the book of the Lord. If you seek, the Holy Spirit will help you find the answer.

II Corinthians 3:17 Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. 18 And we, who with unveiled faces all reflect the Lord's glory, are being transformed into his likeness with ever-increasing glory, which comes from the Lord, who is the Spirit. NIV

2Co 3:12 Therefore, since we have such a hope, we speak with great boldness,
2Co 3:13 not like Moses, who kept covering his face with a veil to keep the people of Israel from gazing at the end of what was fading away.
2Co 3:14 However, their minds were hardened, for to this day the same veil is still there when they read the old covenant. Only in union with Christ is that veil removed.
2Co 3:15 Yet even to this day, when Moses is read, a veil covers their hearts.
2Co 3:16 But whenever a person turns to the Lord, the veil is removed.
2Co 3:17 Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Lord's Spirit is, there is freedom.
2Co 3:18 As all of us reflect the glory of the Lord with unveiled faces, we are being transformed into the same image with ever-increasing glory by the Lord's Spirit.
This is the reason why a person could not find the kingdom of God because a viel covers their heart.

I have already presented Luke 17... WE are the Kingdom of the Christ. There is no other and Hell can not overcome us.
That is your own conclusion.

Colossians 1:13 For he has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of the Son he loves, 14in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins. NIV

Col 1:13
For He has delivered us from the power of darkness and has translated us into the kingdom of His dear Son;
Col1:14 in whom we have redemption through His blood, the remission of sins.
Col1:15 who is the image of the invisible God, the First-born of all creation.
Col1:16 For all things were created in Him, the things in the heavens, and the things on the earth, the visible and the invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers, all things were created through Him and for Him.
Col1:17 And He is before all things, and by Him all things consist.
Col1:18 And He is the Head of the body, the church, who is the Beginning, the First-born from the dead, that He may be pre-eminent in all things.

If you think that you were already rescued from the power of darkness then you must be with our Lord Jesus Christ. Our Lord Jesus Christ is the head of the body and the body is the church. And what is that church?
1Co 1:9 God is faithful, by whom ye were called unto the fellowship of his Son Jesus Christ our Lord.
1Co 1:2 Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours:

But if you are trying to find it through your own efforts, like the Pharisees, you will surely fail.
Mat 6:33 But seek ye first his kingdom, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
How shall I fail? The instruction of our Lord Jesus Christ is to search first the kingdom of God.

Don’t use the Pharisees to escape my question. Please explain where is the Kingdom of God according to the bible. Please do not cite irrelevant verses my friend for it is just a waste of time specially if taken out of context.


God bless you. :D
 

may

Well-Known Member
Daniel 2;44 the kingdom of God is in heaven , and Jesus was given rulership in 1914 when he was made king of Gods heavenly kingdom Daniel 7;13-14 the reason we know that 1914 was the time he was made king, is because bible prophecy and chronology points to that date , yes the kingdom of God is in heaven and the king is Jesus christ ,and he is the legal heir to take the kingship. and he has . understanding is becoming abundant in this the last days . Daniel 12;4
 

verita

Member
may said:
Daniel 2;44 the kingdom of God is in heaven , and Jesus was given rulership in 1914 when he was made king of Gods heavenly kingdom Daniel 7;13-14 the reason we know that 1914 was the time he was made king, is because bible prophecy and chronology points to that date , yes the kingdom of God is in heaven and the king is Jesus christ ,and he is the legal heir to take the kingship. and he has . understanding is becoming abundant in this the last days . Daniel 12;4
Dan 2:44 And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.

Dan 7:13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.
Dan 7:14 And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.

Dan 12:4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

1914 and Chronology? I don’t bite that idea. I’d rather stick to what the bible said.
Act 1:6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?
Act 1:7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.

Besides, all men of God from Abel to the last apostle even to the last Christian in our time that died (sleeping) is still on earth up to this time. How can our Lord Jesus Christ rule a kingdom if nobody there?

This is a warning from Saint Paul…
Col 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

God bless you. :)
 

Scuba Pete

Le plongeur avec attitude...
The Kingdom is spiritual and consists of every Christian. It was launched on the day of Pentecost. Only legalists seem to have a hard time seeing this.
 

bigvindaloo

Active Member
The Kingdom of God is definitely within. The rest we see around us devoted to the worship of God is Godless edifice. Just like the University of Oxford is no more than the buildings on site.
 

verita

Member
Have you heard of Parable of the Good Seed?

Mat 13:24 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:

Mat 13:31 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is like to a grain of mustard seed, which a man took, and sowed in his field:

Mat 13:33 Another parable spake he unto them; The kingdom of heaven is like unto leaven, which a woman took, and hid in three measures of meal, till the whole was leavened.

Mat 13:36 Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: and his disciples came unto him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field.
Mat 13:37 He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;
Mat 13:38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
Mat 13:39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
Mat 13:40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.

Please read and hear Matthew Chapter 13. You need an real media player to hear it.

Once you have completed reading the whole Chapter 13 of Matthew, you may have a clue of who, what and where is the Kingdom of God.

God bless you all.:D
 

Scuba Pete

Le plongeur avec attitude...
Well you can disagree with the scriptures and the spirit all you want. It doesn't change the fact that God lives in our hearts through the Spirit.
 

may

Well-Known Member
verita said:
Dan 2:44 And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.

Dan 7:13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.
Dan 7:14 And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.

Dan 12:4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

1914 and Chronology? I don’t bite that idea. I’d rather stick to what the bible said.
Act 1:6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?
Act 1:7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.

Besides, all men of God from Abel to the last apostle even to the last Christian in our time that died (sleeping) is still on earth up to this time. How can our Lord Jesus Christ rule a kingdom if nobody there?

This is a warning from Saint Paul…
Col 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

God bless you. :)
yes as Daniel 2;44 says ,the kingdom would be set up in the days of those kings,in other words while the ruling powers of men are still in power , yes in 1914 which is a very significant date inline with bible prophecy and chronology . Jesus was given the kingship , the Heavenly kingdom goverment is now well and truly set up with the ruling king Jesus christ , and since 1914 we have been living in ...........the start of the last days, or ....the time of the end,..... or ....the conclusion of a system of things..... yes ,as you mentioned when the early followers of christ asked the question , it was not the time for the answer the appointed time had not arrived at that time.ACTS 1;6-11
When, now, they had assembled, they went asking him: "Lord, are you restoring the kingdom to Israel at this time?" 7 He said to them: "It does not belong to YOU to get knowledge of the times or seasons which the Father has placed in his own jurisdiction; 8 but YOU will receive power when the holy spirit arrives upon YOU, and YOU will be witnesses of me both in Jerusalem and in all Ju·de´a and Sa·mar´i·a and to the most distant part of the earth." 9 And after he had said these things, while they were looking on, he was lifted up and a cloud caught him up from their vision. 10 And as they were gazing into the sky while he was on his way, also, look! two men in white garments stood alongside them, 11 and they said: "Men of Gal´i·lee, why do YOU stand looking into the sky? This Jesus who was received up from YOU into the sky will come thus in the same manner as YOU have beheld him going into the sky."....... yes , notice it was only the followers of christ that saw Jesus go up into the sky , and he was caught up from their vision,he was invisible to them , so it would be the same when he comes into kingdom power, only his disiples would discern and see, the world in general would not see it . yes his presence in kingdom power is invisible , we can not see it because it is going on in the heavens. but those who have the eye of understanding will discern and understand.
 

verita

Member
may said:
yes , notice it was only the followers of christ that saw Jesus go up into the sky , and he was caught up from their vision,he was invisible to them , so it would be the same when he comes into kingdom power, only his disiples would discern and see, the world in general would not see it . yes his presence in kingdom power is invisible , we can not see it because it is going on in the heavens. but those who have the eye of understanding will discern and understand.
so it would be the same when he comes into kingdom power, only his disiples would discern and see, the world in general would not see it???? :no: That is NOT what the bible say… :)

Mat 24:30 And then the sign of the Son of Man shall appear in the heavens. And then ALL THE TRIBES OF THE EARTH shall mourn, and they shall see the Son of Man coming in the clouds of the heaven with power and great glory.
The next coming of our Lord Jesus Christ will be seen by all tribes on Earth.

Mar 13:21 And then if anyone shall say to you, Lo, here is Christ! Or, lo, there! Do not believe him.
Mar 13:22 For FALSE CHRISTS and FALSE PROPHETS will arise and will give miraculous signs and wonders in order to seduce, if possible, even the elect.
Mar 13:23 But take heed; behold, I have told you all things beforehand.
Mar 13:24 But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,
Mar 13:25 and the stars of Heaven shall FALL, and the powers in the heavens shall be shaken.
Mar 13:26 And then they will SEE the Son of Man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.
Mar 13:31 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but My Words shall not pass away.
Mar 13:32 But of that day and hour no one knows, NO, not the angels in Heaven, nor the Son, BUT THE FATHER.
Even the False Christ and False Prophets will see our Lord Jesus Christ in his next coming. Only the Father knows what time will be the next coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. That day will be very fearful to all mankind. Therefore 1914 is just a speculation.

Luk 21:25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars. And on the EARTH will be anxiety of NATIONS with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
Luk 21:26 men fainting from fear, and expecting those things which have come on the earth. For the powers of the heavens shall be shaken.
Luk 21:27 And then they shall SEE the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.
Every Nation on Earth will see the next coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. Why? Because there is BIG earthquake and HUGE Tsunami.

Rev 1:7 Look! He is coming in the clouds. Every eye will see him, even those who pierced him, and all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of him. So be it! Amen.
The book of Revelation confirmed that every eye will see the next coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

God bless you. :)
 

may

Well-Known Member
verita said:
so it would be the same when he comes into kingdom power, only his disiples would discern and see, the world in general would not see it???? :no: That is NOT what the bible say… :)

Mat 24:30 And then the sign of the Son of Man shall appear in the heavens. And then ALL THE TRIBES OF THE EARTH shall mourn, and they shall see the Son of Man coming in the clouds of the heaven with power and great glory.
The next coming of our Lord Jesus Christ will be seen by all tribes on Earth.

Mar 13:21 And then if anyone shall say to you, Lo, here is Christ! Or, lo, there! Do not believe him.
Mar 13:22 For FALSE CHRISTS and FALSE PROPHETS will arise and will give miraculous signs and wonders in order to seduce, if possible, even the elect.
Mar 13:23 But take heed; behold, I have told you all things beforehand.
Mar 13:24 But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,
Mar 13:25 and the stars of Heaven shall FALL, and the powers in the heavens shall be shaken.
Mar 13:26 And then they will SEE the Son of Man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.
Mar 13:31 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but My Words shall not pass away.
Mar 13:32 But of that day and hour no one knows, NO, not the angels in Heaven, nor the Son, BUT THE FATHER.
Even the False Christ and False Prophets will see our Lord Jesus Christ in his next coming. Only the Father knows what time will be the next coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. That day will be very fearful to all mankind. Therefore 1914 is just a speculation.

Luk 21:25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars. And on the EARTH will be anxiety of NATIONS with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
Luk 21:26 men fainting from fear, and expecting those things which have come on the earth. For the powers of the heavens shall be shaken.
Luk 21:27 And then they shall SEE the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.
Every Nation on Earth will see the next coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. Why? Because there is BIG earthquake and HUGE Tsunami.

Rev 1:7 Look! He is coming in the clouds. Every eye will see him, even those who pierced him, and all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of him. So be it! Amen.
The book of Revelation confirmed that every eye will see the next coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

God bless you. :)
Jesus coming into kingdom power, in 1914 was invisible but Jesus coming to judge the nations is when everyone will see with the eye of understanding , even those who rejected him , but at that time it will be to late they will have already made their choice, they will be either a sheep or a goat , sheep are righeous ones in Gods eyes, but Goats are rebellious ones. and the goats know full well what they are seeing , and they will beat themselves in lamentation .do not confuse the word coming with the word presence, Jesus presence in kingdom power has been here since 1914 but his coming to execute judgement is something else, it will be the great day of Jehovah .
(2 Peter 3:10) Yet Jehovah’s day will come as a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a hissing noise, but the elements being intensely hot will be dissolved, and earth and the works in it will be discovered........... yes the ruling powers of men(heavens) will be crushed out of the way Daniel 2;44 and the elements of the sea of mankind which is in great turmoil will be no more,it will be dissolved
(Psalm 37:10) And just a little while longer, and the wicked one will be no more; And you will certainly give attention to his place, and he will not be.
 

verita

Member
may said:
Jesus coming into kingdom power, in 1914 was invisible but Jesus coming to judge the nations is when everyone will see with the eye of understanding , even those who rejected him , but at that time it will be to late they will have already made their choice, they will be either a sheep or a goat , sheep are righeous ones in Gods eyes, but Goats are rebellious ones. and the goats know full well what they are seeing , and they will beat themselves in lamentation .do not confuse the word coming with the word presence, Jesus presence in kingdom power has been here since 1914 but his coming to execute judgement is something else, it will be the great day of Jehovah .
(2 Peter 3:10) Yet Jehovah’s day will come as a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a hissing noise, but the elements being intensely hot will be dissolved, and earth and the works in it will be discovered........... yes the ruling powers of men(heavens) will be crushed out of the way Daniel 2;44 and the elements of the sea of mankind which is in great turmoil will be no more,it will be dissolved
(Psalm 37:10) And just a little while longer, and the wicked one will be no more; And you will certainly give attention to his place, and he will not be.
The First World War broke out in 1914, that’s why many peoples during those times had believed on something they don’t understand. During those days, the bible is still sealed. Even in the first three chapter of Genesis, there are so many mysteries there that until now are hidden or sealed. I have already exposed some in Chapter 1. The forbidden fruit that Eve and Adam had eaten, that is a very big mystery that a lot of people don’t know the real meaning. Even prophet Daniel didn’t know the thing he had written because it is not yet time.
Dan 12:8 And I heard, but I did not understand. Then I said, O my lord, what shall be the end of these things?
Dan 12:9 And He said, Go, Daniel! For the words are closed up and sealed until the end-time.

Now someone will tell me that our Lord Jesus Christ comeback on earth secretly in 1914.:faint: For people who have not studied the bible, it is easy to be mislead but not me.:tsk: I still believe on the strong warning of Saint Paul…
Col 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

This message from Saint Paul is very plain and simple to understand…
1Th 4:13 But I would not have you ignorant, brothers, concerning those who are asleep, that you be not grieved, even as others who have no hope.
1Th 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will also bring with Him all those who have fallen asleep through Jesus.
1Th 4:15 For we say this to you by the Word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord shall not go before those who are asleep.
1Th 4:16 For the Lord Himself shall descend from Heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ shall rise first.
1Th 4:17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air. And so we shall ever be with the Lord.

God bless you. :)
 

may

Well-Known Member
verita said:
The First World War broke out in 1914, that’s why many peoples during those times had believed on something they don’t understand. During those days, the bible is still sealed. Even in the first three chapter of Genesis, there are so many mysteries there that until now are hidden or sealed. I have already exposed some in Chapter 1. The forbidden fruit that Eve and Adam had eaten, that is a very big mystery that a lot of people don’t know the real meaning. Even prophet Daniel didn’t know the thing he had written because it is not yet time.
Dan 12:8 And I heard, but I did not understand. Then I said, O my lord, what shall be the end of these things?
Dan 12:9 And He said, Go, Daniel! For the words are closed up and sealed until the end-time.

Now someone will tell me that our Lord Jesus Christ comeback on earth secretly in 1914.:faint: For people who have not studied the bible, it is easy to be mislead but not me.:tsk::)
yes 1914 the start of the last days , just as the bible foretold, matthew 24

While he was sitting upon the Mount of Olives, the disciples approached him privately, saying: "Tell us, When will these things be, and what will be the sign of your presence

Gr., pa·rou·si´as.

and of the conclusion of the system of things?"

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And in answer Jesus said to them: "Look out that nobody misleads YOU; 5 for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will mislead many. 6 YOU are going to hear of wars and reports of wars; see that YOU are not terrified. For these things must take place, but the end is not yet.​

7 "For nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be food shortages and earthquakes in one place after another. 8 All these things are a beginning of pangs of distress. ..............yes it most certainly was the start of the last days , nation against nation, the first world war and that was just the start, but the end was not then, it was the start of the last days, yes 1914 really is a significant date . and since that time the bible is being opened up to his faithful ones . matthew 24;45-47 and true knowledge is becoming abundant Daniel 12;4 we certainly are living in thrilling times indeed. the book of Genesis is nolonger a secret to the faithful ones , the first ever prophecy in the bible Genesis 3;15 is an on going thing , and this symbolic woman has given birth to her male child (Gods heavenly kingdom) revelation 12;5
And she gave birth to a son, a male, who is to shepherd all the nations with an iron rod. And her child was caught away to God and to his throne........... yes the birth of Gods heavenly kingdom goverment was in 1914 and Jesus was made king of that kingdom . Daniel 7;13-14. this Kingdom has Gods protection, nothing can harm that kingdom (male child)because it is in heaven. no secret about it , it is being made known in all the inhabited earth on a global scale matthew 24;14
And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.

 

truth2set3

New Member
may said:
yes 1914 the start of the last days , just as the bible foretold, matthew 24

While he was sitting upon the Mount of Olives, the disciples approached him privately, saying: "Tell us, When will these things be, and what will be the sign of your presence

Gr., pa·rou·si´as.

and of the conclusion of the system of things?"

4​
And in answer Jesus said to them: "Look out that nobody misleads YOU; 5 for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will mislead many. 6 YOU are going to hear of wars and reports of wars; see that YOU are not terrified. For these things must take place, but the end is not yet.​

7 "For nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be food shortages and earthquakes in one place after another. 8 All these things are a beginning of pangs of distress. ..............yes it most certainly was the start of the last days , nation against nation, the first world war and that was just the start, but the end was not then, it was the start of the last days, yes 1914 really is a significant date . and since that time the bible is being opened up to his faithful ones . matthew 24;45-47 and true knowledge is becoming abundant Daniel 12;4 we certainly are living in thrilling times indeed. the book of Genesis is nolonger a secret to the faithful ones , the first ever prophecy in the bible Genesis 3;15 is an on going thing , and this symbolic woman has given birth to her male child (Gods heavenly kingdom) revelation 12;5
And she gave birth to a son, a male, who is to shepherd all the nations with an iron rod. And her child was caught away to God and to his throne........... yes the birth of Gods heavenly kingdom goverment was in 1914 and Jesus was made king of that kingdom . Daniel 7;13-14. this Kingdom has Gods protection, nothing can harm that kingdom (male child)because it is in heaven. no secret about it , it is being made known in all the inhabited earth on a global scale matthew 24;14
And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.

Amen!
 

mostly harmless

Endlessly amused
Jesus said- the kingdom of God is within you.


Jesus said, "If your leaders say to you, 'Behold, the kingdom is in the sky', then the birds in the sky will get there before you. If they say to you, 'It is in the sea', then the fish will get there before you. Rather, the kingdom is inside you and outside you. When you know yourselves, then you will be known, and will understand that you are children of the living Father. But if you do not know yourselves, the you live in poverty, and embody poverty." The Gospel of Thomas-saying 3


I think he means exactly what he says here.
 
.. the God of Heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people." (Daniel 2:44); "... This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen him go into heaven." (Acts 1: 11)


Muslims beleive in God's Kingdom on Earth, through Jesus(pbuh):-

The son of Mary [Jesus (pbuh)] will return and kill the Antichrist. Then you will live for 40 years in prosperity. (Al-Muttaqi al-Hindi, Al-Burhan fi `Alamat al-Mahdi Akhir az-Zaman, p. 90)

Everywhere food will cook in pots, unseen prosperity will dominate, and material wealth will be disregarded. (Ibn Hajar al-Haythami, Al-Qawl al-Mukhtasar fi `Alamat al-Mahdi al-Muntazar, p. 66)

The reason for Jesus [pbuh] to abandon charity is: There are no needy poor people in want of charity left. (Sunan Ibn Majah, vol. 10, p. 339)

Even without the plough, the produce of wheat would multiply seven hundred times, one mudd [a measure of wheat] becoming 700 mudd. (Jalal ad-Din as-Suyuti)

... And wealth will be so abundant that no one will accept it. (Sahih Bukhari)

The Hour will not be established until wealth will be in abudance - so abundant that a wealthy person will worry lest nobody accept his Zakat, and whenever he will present it to someone, that person will say, "I am not in need of it." (Sahih Bukhari)

Then will my Ummah be blessed, the number of animals will increase, and the land will bear its fruits. (Ibn Hajar al-Haythami, Al-Qawl al-Mukhtasar, p. 26)

Definitely possessions will be in abundance then, flowing like water. Yet no one will [condescend] to take any (Mukhtasar Tazkirah al-Qurtubi, p. 464.)

Like the cup fills with water, so will Earth fill with peace. There will be no enmity left between any people. All hostility, fighting, and envy will disappear.
(Sahih Muslim)

The warriors will abandon their weight [weapons and kits].
(Sunan Ibn Majah, vol. 10, p. 334)

The soldiers put down their weighs [their weapons, etc.]. (Olum-Kiyamet-Ahiret ve Ahirzaman Alametleri [Death-Doomsday-Hereafter and The Signs of the End Times], p. 496)

Spite, mutual hatred, and jealousy against one another will certainly disappear. (Sunan Abu Dawud)
 
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