Scuba Pete
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Well, I can't help it if you don't understand... I have tried to use the scriptures to make it all plain for you.
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OK if you really have wisdom and understanding, explain where is the kingdom of God according to the bible and not according to your own words. I want verse and not speculation.NetDoc said:Well, I can't help it if you don't understand... I have tried to use the scriptures to make it all plain for you.
NetDoc said:If you expect to just use verse, you will go the way of the Pharisee. You HAVE to use the Spirit to understand God.
II Corinthians 3:17 Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. 18 And we, who with unveiled faces all reflect the Lord's glory, are being transformed into his likeness with ever-increasing glory, which comes from the Lord, who is the Spirit. NIV
That is your own conclusion.I have already presented Luke 17... WE are the Kingdom of the Christ. There is no other and Hell can not overcome us.
Colossians 1:13 For he has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of the Son he loves, 14in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins. NIV
Mat 6:33 But seek ye first his kingdom, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.But if you are trying to find it through your own efforts, like the Pharisees, you will surely fail.
Dan 2:44 And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.may said:Daniel 2;44 the kingdom of God is in heaven , and Jesus was given rulership in 1914 when he was made king of Gods heavenly kingdom Daniel 7;13-14 the reason we know that 1914 was the time he was made king, is because bible prophecy and chronology points to that date , yes the kingdom of God is in heaven and the king is Jesus christ ,and he is the legal heir to take the kingship. and he has . understanding is becoming abundant in this the last days . Daniel 12;4
yes as Daniel 2;44 says ,the kingdom would be set up in the days of those kings,in other words while the ruling powers of men are still in power , yes in 1914 which is a very significant date inline with bible prophecy and chronology . Jesus was given the kingship , the Heavenly kingdom goverment is now well and truly set up with the ruling king Jesus christ , and since 1914 we have been living in ...........the start of the last days, or ....the time of the end,..... or ....the conclusion of a system of things..... yes ,as you mentioned when the early followers of christ asked the question , it was not the time for the answer the appointed time had not arrived at that time.ACTS 1;6-11verita said:Dan 2:44 And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.
Dan 7:13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.
Dan 7:14 And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.
Dan 12:4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.
1914 and Chronology? I dont bite that idea. Id rather stick to what the bible said.
Act 1:6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?
Act 1:7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.
Besides, all men of God from Abel to the last apostle even to the last Christian in our time that died (sleeping) is still on earth up to this time. How can our Lord Jesus Christ rule a kingdom if nobody there?
This is a warning from Saint Paul
Col 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
God bless you.
so it would be the same when he comes into kingdom power, only his disiples would discern and see, the world in general would not see it???? :no: That is NOT what the bible saymay said:yes , notice it was only the followers of christ that saw Jesus go up into the sky , and he was caught up from their vision,he was invisible to them , so it would be the same when he comes into kingdom power, only his disiples would discern and see, the world in general would not see it . yes his presence in kingdom power is invisible , we can not see it because it is going on in the heavens. but those who have the eye of understanding will discern and understand.
Jesus coming into kingdom power, in 1914 was invisible but Jesus coming to judge the nations is when everyone will see with the eye of understanding , even those who rejected him , but at that time it will be to late they will have already made their choice, they will be either a sheep or a goat , sheep are righeous ones in Gods eyes, but Goats are rebellious ones. and the goats know full well what they are seeing , and they will beat themselves in lamentation .do not confuse the word coming with the word presence, Jesus presence in kingdom power has been here since 1914 but his coming to execute judgement is something else, it will be the great day of Jehovah .verita said:so it would be the same when he comes into kingdom power, only his disiples would discern and see, the world in general would not see it???? :no: That is NOT what the bible say
Mat 24:30 And then the sign of the Son of Man shall appear in the heavens. And then ALL THE TRIBES OF THE EARTH shall mourn, and they shall see the Son of Man coming in the clouds of the heaven with power and great glory.
The next coming of our Lord Jesus Christ will be seen by all tribes on Earth.
Mar 13:21 And then if anyone shall say to you, Lo, here is Christ! Or, lo, there! Do not believe him.
Mar 13:22 For FALSE CHRISTS and FALSE PROPHETS will arise and will give miraculous signs and wonders in order to seduce, if possible, even the elect.
Mar 13:23 But take heed; behold, I have told you all things beforehand.
Mar 13:24 But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,
Mar 13:25 and the stars of Heaven shall FALL, and the powers in the heavens shall be shaken.
Mar 13:26 And then they will SEE the Son of Man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.
Mar 13:31 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but My Words shall not pass away.
Mar 13:32 But of that day and hour no one knows, NO, not the angels in Heaven, nor the Son, BUT THE FATHER.
Even the False Christ and False Prophets will see our Lord Jesus Christ in his next coming. Only the Father knows what time will be the next coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. That day will be very fearful to all mankind. Therefore 1914 is just a speculation.
Luk 21:25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars. And on the EARTH will be anxiety of NATIONS with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
Luk 21:26 men fainting from fear, and expecting those things which have come on the earth. For the powers of the heavens shall be shaken.
Luk 21:27 And then they shall SEE the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.
Every Nation on Earth will see the next coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. Why? Because there is BIG earthquake and HUGE Tsunami.
Rev 1:7 Look! He is coming in the clouds. Every eye will see him, even those who pierced him, and all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of him. So be it! Amen.
The book of Revelation confirmed that every eye will see the next coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
God bless you.
The First World War broke out in 1914, thats why many peoples during those times had believed on something they dont understand. During those days, the bible is still sealed. Even in the first three chapter of Genesis, there are so many mysteries there that until now are hidden or sealed. I have already exposed some in Chapter 1. The forbidden fruit that Eve and Adam had eaten, that is a very big mystery that a lot of people dont know the real meaning. Even prophet Daniel didnt know the thing he had written because it is not yet time.may said:Jesus coming into kingdom power, in 1914 was invisible but Jesus coming to judge the nations is when everyone will see with the eye of understanding , even those who rejected him , but at that time it will be to late they will have already made their choice, they will be either a sheep or a goat , sheep are righeous ones in Gods eyes, but Goats are rebellious ones. and the goats know full well what they are seeing , and they will beat themselves in lamentation .do not confuse the word coming with the word presence, Jesus presence in kingdom power has been here since 1914 but his coming to execute judgement is something else, it will be the great day of Jehovah .
(2 Peter 3:10) Yet Jehovahs day will come as a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a hissing noise, but the elements being intensely hot will be dissolved, and earth and the works in it will be discovered........... yes the ruling powers of men(heavens) will be crushed out of the way Daniel 2;44 and the elements of the sea of mankind which is in great turmoil will be no more,it will be dissolved
(Psalm 37:10) And just a little while longer, and the wicked one will be no more; And you will certainly give attention to his place, and he will not be.
yes 1914 the start of the last days , just as the bible foretold, matthew 24verita said:The First World War broke out in 1914, thats why many peoples during those times had believed on something they dont understand. During those days, the bible is still sealed. Even in the first three chapter of Genesis, there are so many mysteries there that until now are hidden or sealed. I have already exposed some in Chapter 1. The forbidden fruit that Eve and Adam had eaten, that is a very big mystery that a lot of people dont know the real meaning. Even prophet Daniel didnt know the thing he had written because it is not yet time.
Dan 12:8 And I heard, but I did not understand. Then I said, O my lord, what shall be the end of these things?
Dan 12:9 And He said, Go, Daniel! For the words are closed up and sealed until the end-time.
Now someone will tell me that our Lord Jesus Christ comeback on earth secretly in 1914.:faint: For people who have not studied the bible, it is easy to be mislead but not me.:tsk:
Amen!may said:yes 1914 the start of the last days , just as the bible foretold, matthew 24
While he was sitting upon the Mount of Olives, the disciples approached him privately, saying: "Tell us, When will these things be, and what will be the sign of your presence
Gr., pa·rou·si´as.
and of the conclusion of the system of things?"
4And in answer Jesus said to them: "Look out that nobody misleads YOU; 5 for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, I am the Christ, and will mislead many. 6 YOU are going to hear of wars and reports of wars; see that YOU are not terrified. For these things must take place, but the end is not yet.
7 "For nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be food shortages and earthquakes in one place after another. 8 All these things are a beginning of pangs of distress. ..............yes it most certainly was the start of the last days , nation against nation, the first world war and that was just the start, but the end was not then, it was the start of the last days, yes 1914 really is a significant date . and since that time the bible is being opened up to his faithful ones . matthew 24;45-47 and true knowledge is becoming abundant Daniel 12;4 we certainly are living in thrilling times indeed. the book of Genesis is nolonger a secret to the faithful ones , the first ever prophecy in the bible Genesis 3;15 is an on going thing , and this symbolic woman has given birth to her male child (Gods heavenly kingdom) revelation 12;5
And she gave birth to a son, a male, who is to shepherd all the nations with an iron rod. And her child was caught away to God and to his throne........... yes the birth of Gods heavenly kingdom goverment was in 1914 and Jesus was made king of that kingdom . Daniel 7;13-14. this Kingdom has Gods protection, nothing can harm that kingdom (male child)because it is in heaven. no secret about it , it is being made known in all the inhabited earth on a global scale matthew 24;14
And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.