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Where is Heaven?

Nisou Kitsune

Resident Anime Freak
I don't think there is such a thing. There is only physics we hasn't narrowed down yet.

I can believe this, but only for our plane of existence. Our laws of physics, our observations of nature and everything we have found out so far means nothing in the other realms of existence.

For all we know, our dimension is nothing but a parasite dimension or a weak dimension.


Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
Premium Member
I would not like being in that state tbh. I like my individuality and I would imagine that eternal bliss would get boring after a while.

Not likely, according to the Sages, and according to my own flashes of bliss which I experience occasionally in and after meditation. Even the greatest sensual pleasures I've experienced are nothing compared to even a moment of that bliss.

Only the transitory material things get "boring", which, according to something I just read now, is due to ultimate meaninglessness. That is, once we get used to a material pleasure, it loses its meaning; i.e., becomes "boring". It is no longer satisfactory to the senses, and so they (the senses) seek after something else to be pleasured by, which will also eventually prove meaningless ultimately, and the cycle continues.

Nisou Kitsune

Resident Anime Freak
This reminds me of a Terry Pratchett quote.

"Death: Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom."


Superabacus Mystic
Personally, I like the other Death quote.
Take the universe and grind it down to the finest powder, and sieve it through the finest sieve, and then show me one atom of justice, one molecule of mercy. And yet, you try to act as if there is some ideal order in the world. As if there is some, some rightness in the universe, by which it may be judged.

Nisou Kitsune

Resident Anime Freak
I LOVE Terry Pratchett! His views on the world are simply amazing. <3

&#8220;God does not play dice with the universe; He plays an ineffable game of His own devising, which might be compared, from the perspective of the players, (ie everybody), to being involved in an obscure and complex version of poker in a pitch-dark room, with blank cards, for infinite stakes, with a Dealer who won't tell you the rules, and who smiles all the time.&#8221;


Well-Known Member
Earth is probably the closes thing to Heaven I will ever get. So I will agree with the Go-go chick and say heaven is a place on earth, you have a limited stay, so make the best of it and enjoy it while it lasts.


Grand Master
Well, everything is physics...but I guess it's physics we don't know/can't understand.

Yes we can't understand it now. But if it is in the realm of physics, it's possible for us to pinpoint where heaven is. We still have a lot of time.

St Giordano Bruno

Well-Known Member
One can use as many metaphors they like but traditionally heaven is taught to believers (usually from early childhood) to be a place of &#8220;eternal bliss&#8221; and the abode of god, the saints and angels and also the rewards for those whose soul has no so called "stain of sin" or has been cleansed of any such stain.


Religion is Law
This is a branch off from another thread.

In your opinion and/or religious believe, where is Heaven?

Where would it be if it was on Earth?
Here if you know where to look.

Let's start with the earth itself. All life upon it is fleeting as we understand death is the tool that makes it so. We know that there is no visible eternity here. So, why are we here? To experience that fleetingness, to experience pain and sorrow. In Heaven we assume there is no pain and sorrow, so we must come here to experience such things. This is a testing ground for us all. Here we also experience darkness and ignorance, not knowing where Heaven is.

Heaven of course is here, always has been. You just have to know what to look for. We are at a lower form or level of Heaven and someday when the earth as we know it is no longer necessary it will be elevated to a higher level. There will be no more pain and sorrow here, it will have moved on to another created earth for others to experience. There is a process or logic to existence.

Nisou Kitsune

Resident Anime Freak
The Nac Mac Feegles believe that they are already in heaven.

The fearlessness of Nac Mac Feegle warriors in combat is derived from their religious belief that they cannot be killed, because they are already dead; they believe that they are in the afterlife, and that any Feegle who is killed has simply been reincarnated [to a different world]. They reason that Discworld, with the sunshine, flowers, birds, trees, things to steal and people to fight, must be some sort of heaven, because "a world that good couldn't be open to just anybody, they say. It must be some kind of heaven or Valhalla, where brave warriors go when they are dead. So, they reason, they have already been alive somewhere else, and then died and were allow to come [To the Discworld] because they have been so good."



roughly, i am pagan. to thouroghly describe my beliefs would take a while. lol. + my beleifs change as i continually educate myself.

if something exists than it can be understood.