Corban said:
Saying God is everything is the same as saying He is nothing
Um... small problem Corban. There is a distinct difference between nothing and everything. Your Bible makes it quite clear that first there was nothing and then God created everything. (The only other option is that everything already existed and God created nothing... making God powerless and unimportant. I suspect you don't like that description of God, so I suspect you will ignore this option).
The Bible does NOT say that first there was nothing which was everything and then there was everything which was nothing. Nope, it makes a distinction between everything and nothing and therefore something that is everything cannot at the same time be nothing. It can't even be "like" nothing.
Your problem with the concept of God being everything is simply this: A God that is everything is beyond your understanding because not everything is within your understanding. This does not, however, mean that such a God does not exist. In fact, it would be illogical to say that God is NOT everything because if God were only PART of everything then God would have limits... God would be finite and therefore not all powerful. A finite, limited God is not the Christian view of God, now is it?
Corban said:
so you might as well be an athiest they believe god is nothing, you believe nothing is god.
You are right... one who believes that God is everything can very easily be atheist, because a God that is everything would simply be another term for something we are all familiar with: reality
However, this essence of everything has many other names. Atheists call it the Universe or Reality. Taoists call it Tao. NeoDruids call it the Source. Somehow I suspect they are all talking about the same thing and that the differences in definition are minor, at best.
they believe god is nothing
Corban, I think you may be right. I think Gerani's God may indeed be nothing. However, I also believe that YOUR God may be nothing... and my proof is right there in the Bible!
"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth."
Right there the moment of creation is described, the moment when God first created everything. So what existed before God created everything? Nothing, because if anything existed before God created it, then God is no longer the Creator of everything and therefore is NOT the all-powerful being Christians claim him to be.
However, this gives us a problem. Logically, the only option here is that before God created everything there was nothing. So... where was God before he created everything? Or, more appropriately, WHAT was God?
Two options: Either God also did not exist before he created something, or God IS nothing and from that nothingness there came SOMETHING.
Now lets explore these two options.
If before creation there was nothing, then there also could not have been any God. That would make your God finite because that which has a beginning also has an end.
There is, however, that second option. If your God WAS nothing, then he could have existed before he created everything... and he basically created everything out of himself.
Of course... that last makes me wonder about the gender of your God... if humans were made in God's image and human WOMEN create life out of themselves... well, then what does that say about the gender of the Christian God?
Of course, this all can only be true if one assumes that the Bible is true... which I personally don't think it is.