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Where does science take start from?

Jeremiahcp

Well-Known Jerk
Where does science take start from?
Does it start from knowledge or from doubt? Please

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Concept of this thread is derived from following posts:
#74 Willamena , thanks and regards to the very respected friend, here. Please
#101 paarsurrey

I have little doubt it is doubt. I study statistics and one thing it does is generate probability models that can be used to make inferences about a larger context. The probability models allows us to quantify uncertainty, but it is never: This proves that; instead it is always there is strong/weak evidence for or against that. In statistics if you say something proves something then you are doing it wrong. Nothing is ever fully proven in science; just some things have a greater deal of evidence which suggest it is true or not true. So it is all about measuring doubt.
 
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paarsurrey

Veteran Member
I have little doubt it is doubt. I study statistics and one thing it does is generate probability models that can be used to make inferences about a larger context. The probability models allows us to quantify uncertainty, but it is never: This proves that; instead it is always there is strong/weak evidence for or against that. In statistics if you say something proves something then you are doing it wrong. Nothing is ever fully proven in science; just some things have a greater deal of evidence which suggest it is true or not true. So it is all about measuring doubt.
Doe one mean that science is all faith in doubt? Please
If yes, they can never make a hypothesis of science to start with. Can they? Please illustrate from the very first hypothesis model.
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Jeremiahcp

Well-Known Jerk
Doe one mean that science is all faith in doubt? Please
If yes, they can never make a hypothesis of science to start with. Can they? Please illustrate from the very first hypothesis model.
Regards

"Doe one mean that science is all faith in doubt?"

Science is a methodology and the beliefs are ours to make. So that will depend on the person.

"If yes, they can never make a hypothesis of science to start with. "
"Please illustrate from the very first hypothesis model."

Hypotheses start with a testable question. There is no such thing as a first one.

It is a methodology for analyzing the evidence, but it is up to us to make the final decisions on our beliefs.
 

allfoak

Alchemist
Where does science take start from?
Does it start from knowledge or from doubt? Please

Regards

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Concept of this thread is derived from following posts:
#74 Willamena , thanks and regards to the very respected friend, here. Please
#101 paarsurrey
Doesn't science come from Bill Nye the Science Guy?
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paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Where does science take start from?

How does one visualize that the first hypotheses of science would have been made to start with. Please
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joelr

Well-Known Member
Humans and probably pre-humans were always doing some sort of science-y things.

But the Scientific Method was started by the Greeks, Aristotle.
Before him there was natural logic but it didn't have the same methodology and insight.
He actually started science.
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
Where does science take start from?
Does it start from knowledge or from doubt? Please

Regards

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Concept of this thread is derived from following posts:
#74 Willamena , thanks and regards to the very respected friend, here. Please
#101 paarsurrey
Its the evaluation of truth in real time. It also builds on itself so knowledge becomes foundational for future inquiry.
 

jarofthoughts

Empirical Curmudgeon
Where does science take start from?
Does it start from knowledge or from doubt? Please

Regards

Observation and, later on, logic (here used in the context of looking for applicable connections, not formal logic).
This method has then been inproved upon and developed by many contributors throughout history, and is still improved upon.

The interesting thing, and, I assume, is the one you are really asking about, is that god and religion is ultimately irrelevant in this context.
If there is a god? (Assuming objective empirical evidence could be found).
Well, that's just one more thing that science should investigate.
Is there no god? (Again assuming objective empirical evidence could be found).
Then we'll just investigate the world as we see it.
Science would be science with or without the existence of a god or gods. It is not a belief system. It is not a religion.

It is a method of investigation.
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
Where does science take start from?
Does it start from knowledge or from doubt? Please

Regards

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Concept of this thread is derived from following posts:
#74 Willamena , thanks and regards to the very respected friend, here. Please
#101 paarsurrey

Beside a natural curiosity for information concerning how things work I believe there is a very practical origin that goes back to before humans became human. It is the problem solving process to engineer the physical world for the practical need for food, shelter, weapons, and even produce things of adornment and worship. The application of trail and error experiments to make stone tools, weapons, and used wood and other plants useful purposes was the beginning of the scientific method.
 
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