Where does all the weirdness come from?

[Ellen Brown]

My own take on the question is that much of the strangeness is from the shaitan. (satan) and done to persecute believers.

Come to find out, when I started coming to RF, I didn't know that half of it. Now I think I'll just go back to bed and pull the covers over my head.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

Which wierdness in particular are we discussing?

 

[Kenny]

My own take on the question is that much of the strangeness is from the shaitan. (satan) and done to persecute believers.

Come to find out, when I started coming to RF, I didn't know that half of it. Now I think I'll just go back to bed and pull the covers over my head.

In our perspective, shaitan has been overcome by the blood of The Lamb and our position of declared faith. So we uncover our heads, get up and destroy his works

 

[WalterTrull]

Aahhh, don't take it too seriously. There are many weirded out folk here, just as in the world at large. Just walk on by. Occasionally, there's an interesting thread, close enough to your philosophy to get into, otherwise... Sometimes the intellectual banter, that goes nowhere, gets me tired and I take a break for a while. Then I come back and browse. Sometimes there's a funny joke.

 

[Jumi]

People are plenty weird by themselves.

 

[Flame]

Being normal is boring. Let your weird flag fly free!

 

[Kapalika]

Being normal is boring. Let your weird flag fly free!

Funny another Satanist beat me to it

 

[Ellen Brown]

Satanists are mostly Luciferians, by the way.
Or, philosophical satanists, which is like an amalgamation of satan imagry, mixed with politics, and Luciferian aspirations.

Interesting that you can be so sure of that. I was just going by the book of Job, and the words of Jesus in Luke 22. Seems pretty uncomplicated to me. I've seen nothing to indicate that anything has changed since then.

 

[YmirGF]

Interesting that you can be so sure of that. I was just going by the book of Job, and the words of Jesus in Luke 22. Seems pretty uncomplicated to me. I've seen nothing to indicate that anything has changed since then.

Since you are still young (at heart) @Ellen Brown ask yourself if believing in the reality of Satan/Shaytan has made your life better. Has the belief had a positive impact on your experience?

 

[sun rise]

A bit off topic, but the OP reminded me of this song from my youth

 

[Ellen Brown]

Since you are still young (at heart) @Ellen Brown ask yourself if believing in the reality of Satan/Shaytan has made your life better. Has the belief had a positive impact on your experience?

No I don't check under my bed for a boogie man either.

I try to follow the entire KJV, and often wonder why so much of it has been abrogated...or has it? I'll likely die with more questions than I started with. The adversary, Shaitan, or the devil is documented there.

 

[YmirGF]

No I don't check under my bed for a boogie man either.

I try to follow the entire KJV, and often wonder why so much of it has been abrogated...or has it? I'll likely die with more questions than I started with. The adversary, Shaitan, or the devil is documented there.

I might recommend lighter reading material. It sounds like you have milked that tired tomb for all it's worth already. You should be at the coasting stage by now. Relax. You will be fine.

 

[Ellen Brown]

I believe that only happened because Judas was either overtly, a satan worshipper, or, similar, one of satans minions, worshipper.
That never happens without acceptance, imo.

I try to avoid using my own opinion.

 

[LuisDantas]

I have for a long time felt that Shaitan / Satan is not a literal being, and to the extent that it corresponds to bad things happening, it is a symbol for confusion and emotional immaturity, while the various forms of Satanism seem to generally focus on the positive aspects of seeking freedom of expression.

Then again, I was never one to think of a Creator God as something that actually did exist.

 

[Ellen Brown]

The Bible doesn't tell you that Judas was not accepting of satan, entering him. If you know about how possession works, like I do, then you know that it happens when you are either intentionally doing it, or accepting of it. Usually intentionally.

I'll defend your right to your point of view, even though I worry that thinking like that can lead to hurt and pain for the innocent.

 

[Reaper]

What's wrong with being weird? It's what makes life fun!

 

[shunyadragon]

My own take on the question is that much of the strangeness is from the shaitan. (satan) and done to persecute believers.

Sounds like the 'Devil made me do it' scapegoat.

Come to find out, when I started coming to RF, I didn't know that half of it. Now I think I'll just go back to bed and pull the covers over my head.

The weirdness is simply the fallible nature of being human. Why complicate things?

 

[Hockeycowboy]

My own take on the question is that much of the strangeness is from the shaitan. (satan) and done to persecute believers.

Come to find out, when I started coming to RF, I didn't know that half of it. Now I think I'll just go back to bed and pull the covers over my head.

I agree! But it really shouldn’t be surprising, Jesus called him, “the ruler of this world” at John 12:31 and John 14:30. And when Christ was tempted by Satan @ Matthew 4, he offered Jesus ‘all the kingdoms of the world’; Jesus didn’t dispute his control of them.

1 John 5:19 and Revelation 12:9 highlight the extent of his influence.

But don’t get too disheartened....getting rid of Satan and the trouble he’s caused is one reason Jesus came. — 1 John 3:8.

And, at a person’s death, the Devil’s control over them completely ends! — Ezekiel 18:4, ‘all souls (ie., which includes their future life prospects) belong to God.’

Take care.

 

[shunyadragon]

Human imagination knows no bounds.

When ignorance and mediocrity reigns no one gets wet.

Take off your hat and walk in the rain!

 

[Deeje]

I try to follow the entire KJV, and often wonder why so much of it has been abrogated...or has it? I'll likely die with more questions than I started with. The adversary, Shaitan, or the devil is documented there.

Can I ask why the KJV? There are so many good more up to date translations that show up flaws in many of the KJV's renderings.
In the light of better understanding of the original languages, perhaps you would understand more by checking other versions and comparing. Strongs is also a good resource.