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The history of religion wasnt that long ago to where the laws of nature changed in the last 3,000 years.
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The history of religion wasnt that long ago to where the laws of nature changed in the last 3,000 years.
The laws of nature, gravity, the dead stay dead, etc are true today as it was 3,000 years ago. The creator defied the laws of nature yet today he does not. Where did his magic go?I don't understand what you're trying to say.
Religion cant change the laws of naturemI don't understand what you're trying to say.
If they are laws of nature, rocks shouldnfly regardless the time period.God/Allah gives laws to nature. If He wants, rocks will fly in the air.
This sounds like you are drifting towards deism.The laws of nature, gravity, the dead stay dead, etc are true today as it was 3,000 years ago. The creator defied the laws of nature yet today he does not. Where did his magic go?
How so? Deism just says God exist but doesnt interact with people. The creator interacted with people over 3,000 years ago but somewhere between then and now it stoped. Where did the magic of the creator go?This sounds like you are drifting towards deism.
Yup.The laws of nature, gravity, the dead stay dead, etc are true today as it was 3,000 years ago.
Presupposing they're historical events that actually occurred, they're supposed to be miracles. So also presupposing miracles exist, I imagine they would still be possible - so I don't think the question of 'where', but 'why not now'.The creator defied the laws of nature yet today he does not. Where did his magic go?
Indeedy - but could a deity?Religion cant change the laws of naturem
It is all about perception; magic still exists, it is just knowing where to find it.... Take many of the mainstream religions, they believe in miracles; yet deny magic.The creator defied the laws of nature yet today he does not. Where did his magic go?
Celestine prophecy is a good book. Have to read it again to remember and reas the sequel.If you've read the Celestine Prophecy, it summarizes how what some think of as coincidence, are there to lead us out on our true path... These happen everyday, in lots of peoples life; so from the creators perspective, magic is happening everyday for many.
As for magic that defies physics, look what we did to that last person who showed us... So think those with true power, often keep quiet.
Why do you believe there was a creator and interaction between creator and people?How so? Deism just says God exist but doesnt interact with people. The creator interacted with people over 3,000 years ago but somewhere between then and now it stoped. Where did the magic of the creator go?
Yup.
Presupposing they're historical events that actually occurred, they're supposed to be miracles. So also presupposing miracles exist, I imagine they would still be possible - so I don't think the question of 'where', but 'why not now'.
Indeedy - but could a deity?
I dont. Its a theortical and hypothetical question Im curious about to those who believe this.Why do you believe there was a creator and interaction between creator and people?
Then I imagine religion is even older than humans, as both humans and Neanderthals are believed to have had some form of spirituality.I base religion, in part, as, belief in a deity rather than organization.
Maybe it doesn't?Religions that believe in deities, the deity designed the laws of nature. If people can walk on water over 3,000 years agp, why not now? Time period shouldnt matter.
I don't understand what you're trying to say here, sorry. :/Yep, its "why not now?" but Im not saying a deity chose to stop miracles. Im saying, miracles that defy physics just stoped with no choice involved.
Then I imagine religion is even older than humans, as both humans and Neanderthals are believed to have had some form of spirituality
Ah; I thought I answered something like this, though - something along the lines of wouldn't it be that they wouldn't have 'gone' anywhere; it's just that there haven't been any miracles (or, any "huge" miracles) for whatever reason, entirely up to God's whims?Where did the miracles go?
Entirely up to Gods whims? Got to rephrase that pleaseAh; I thought I answered something like this, though - something along the lines of wouldn't it be that they wouldn't have 'gone' anywhere; it's just that there haven't been any miracles (or, any "huge" miracles) for whatever reason, entirely up to God's whims?
Who says they are gone? Did not the Ganesha idol drink milk?Where did the miracles go?