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When Will It End?

Discussion in 'Health & Healing' started by The Hammer, Mar 3, 2021.

  1. The Hammer

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    It probably won't. We'd probably get used to it as we find more treatments and it will be a new virus just as other viruses. Since it's not an death sentence, it would probably take awhile but, just as anything else, take care of yourself-best way to fight it is to take care of your immune system than covering up with a bandage. In time.
     
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    I think it will end either one of two ways: 1) humanity will just become more sanitary over all - wearing masks will be the norm because there are infectious diseases out there and we're intelligent enough to know how to protect ourselves against that. Just as we made clothes the norm to protect our bodies from the elements, we will masks the norm and hand sanitizer to protect the inside of our bodies from bacterial threats as well. ( I don't believe shut downs can remain forever though, we will eventually be able to do a lot of things we were able to do before covid)

    or 2) Humanity will lose patience with masks and shut downs and things will gradually get worse. In some way, shape, or form we will come out of it. Many will die, but others will develop immunity to it. COVID will just become another flu - accept that it exists, it spreads easily, and it kills people with weaker immune systems, and just live with it.
     
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    Hopefully, they will take their own precautions.
     
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    The way I see it, Covid19 will follow the same pattern as malaria, and all the other pathogens that just lay dormant for a few years, then come back with more Umph, and added defense.

    We should remember, Covid19 is just named to associate it with a virus and period in time, but it's really the same as if we said SARS.
    Some might say SARS 1... 2... 3... etc. bet we don't say malaria 1... 2... 3... etc.

    We can think of it as a volcano. Lie dormant. Wake up. Wreak havoc. Go to sleep.
    Or, we can think of it as villains. They come. They go, but one thing is for sure, they always come... in various forms.
    The hero's day never ends.

    When the real hero stands up, all the villains will rest eternally.
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    Aw... come on... :D
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    I'd say if the vaccine works (when we get more data and it's been awhile), nix the masks, take care of yourself, and get the vaccine if you feel you need to.

    "Removing state mandates does not end personal responsibility and caring for your family members, friends and others in your community," Abbott said. "People and businesses don't need the state telling them how to operate."
     
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    Quite sadly, this pandemic has shown that many people and businesses do need the state to tell them how to operate (provided the state itself is being reasonable in its rules) or they won't act responsibly or safely. Just as a small example, I've met many people who never bother to wear masks anywhere unless a fine or restricted access is imposed for lack of one.
     
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  11. The Hammer

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    A few weeks back, I had a lady tell me she didn't need to wear a mask because she got the vaccine. ***** you can still be a carrier for that ****, and I haven't been vaccinated.
     
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    You can still transmit the virus, vaccinated or not. And now we have 2 more strains going around. Removing the State mandate gives more people the excuse to not wear a mask because "muh' freedoms" or something rather.
     
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    I don't know. But I can guess that what we'll see is more like what we see with the flu - changing vaccinations we get once a year, partial coverage with people still getting sick but the death toll on the order of what we see with the flu now.

    In addition, we'll see more emphasis on measures to boost the immune system and hygiene. Some people will also be more likely to wear masks no matter what the government says or does not say.

    Right now we have a mess with the CDC saying that people don't need masks under some conditions and stories like this that are much more pessimistic.
     
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    We could. Not worth worrying over coulds/maybes/risks unless we're in a place where such risks are high.

    Masks are being used as hate targets. Social distancing is much more affective, in my opinion. Doctors don't wear masks when they're out the surgery room (or where-ever appropriate). Treatments, medicines, and precautions like masks have their place when appropriate.

    The problem would probably be more social distancing. Though, that depends on the area. I went to LO and the population is so small where we went, mask mandates where technicalities at best. NY and LA would most likely be a different story. So, the mask-argument is really useless to fuss over unless, maybe, if we're taking care of someone whose sick or we are sick ourselves. But I'd say social distancing and vaccines would work better than masks-just my opinion.
     
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    CDC posted a list of reasons why some people shouldn't wear masks.
    COVID-19 and Your Health.

    I know you guys want every person under the sun to wear masks, but doctors just wouldn't tell people to get any treatment and take any precaution without looking at when it's appropriate and for whom.

    Who should and shouldn't wear masks
    CDC recognizes there are specific instances when wearing a mask may not be feasible. In these instances, consider adaptations and alternatives.
     
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    Outside of very young children and particular work situations, very very few people can't wear a mask of some type. Sure people with COPD, PTSD and a few others can't wear masks Disability Issues Brief: The ADA and Face Mask Policies

    But I've not heard or read of a case where that was the issue. What seems to be the case is a bunch of selfish entitled people claiming to have such a disability to avoid being responsible adults. They mess it up for the few who are truly unable to wear masks.
     
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    Your opinion isn't more medically significant than that of the experts who agree that, with very few exceptions, masks are extremely helpful in reducing transmission. I find it both irresponsible and intellectually careless to simply state one's opinion as if it were of any real significance on a topic where objective science and measurable effects are available criteria for effectiveness or lack thereof.

    Nowhere on that list do I see any mention of "don't wear one if you feel it smothers you!" or "don't wear one if you can't handle a minor inconvenience as an adult in order to reduce the risk of infection for yourself and others."

    The objections of the obstinate and anti-science crowd are nowhere to be seen on that list; only extremely limited and severe cases that genuinely make it harmful for someone to wear a mask. For the vast majority of people, those don't apply.
     
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    It's tough when nobody else is co-operating. Masks stop people from spreading it more than they stop people from getting it. Just hope there are some 24 hour stores, and go out a 3 AM.
     
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    Masks are not being used as "hate" targets afaik. And all the science points to masks as being the single best way to slow the transmission of this virus. Sure, certain people can't where a mask, that does not negate the efficacy of, or the reasoning behind requiring them in the first place.

    " research from the American Medical Association, which studied 211 counties across 36 states, found three factors besides masks that are best for slowing the spread of coronavirus.

    The first is temperatures in the 60s. The second is small population sizes. The third being social distancing.

    Social distancing is said to be the best way to stop the spread of the virus. But we must utilize it more often, according to Dr. Brian Fischer.

    “Not just some of the time – all of the time,” said Dr. Fischer, an infectious disease pediatrician with the Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia.

    Dr. Fischer, as one of the doctors who worked on the study, doesn’t believe, however, that this is the time time to take our masks off and let our guards down."

    New study determines whether masks or social distancing is more effective fighting COVID-19
     
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