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When Was Your Beginning? When Is Your End?

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
The first time was when we were born of the Spirit.. and the second time is when we are born of flesh and blood into this world age..

But you wouldn't know this..all because your not taught this by man's teachings in the churches..
To be born of the water..is when a woman's water breaks then your born thru that water.

being born of the Spirit is by the word of God.
1 Peter 1:22-23--"
22--"Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently"

23--"Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever"

Therefore being born again of the Spirit is by the word of God. 1 Peter 1:22-23.

And being born of the water. Is by when your mother's water breaks. Then your born thru that water of Flesh and blood.

wrong. in the beginning god created by the movement of spirit/breath on water
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
wrong. in the beginning god created by the movement of spirit/breath on water

Who's exactly talking about when the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the water..

We're talking about as the thread said.
"When was your beginning..when is your end"

Our beginning all started back during the first earth age..at that time we were all spirit beings. Like the angels.

Our body of flesh and blood will come to it's end at death.
But our spirit which is inside of our body has no end. Until the day of judgement then God will determine whether we are fit to enter his kingdom or not.
If not then we as Spirit beings are cast into the lake of fire. This is the final end.

this all will be confusing to you... because in the churches never taught about the 3 earth ages.

Then because of Lucifer alas Satan started his rebellion against God and convinced a third of the Angels to follow him in his rebellion against God..
Then God destroyed that first earth age..this is where the dinosaurs bones came from the first earth age.
We are now in the second earth age.

The third earth age will come at the coming of Christ Jesus to establish his kingdom here on earth. At this time we are spirit beings and not of flesh and blood..
 
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Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
Who's exactly talking about when the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the water..

We're talking about as the thread said.
"When was your beginning..when is your end"
Our beginning all started back during the first earth age..at that time we all were spirit beings. Like the angels.

Our body of flesh and blood will come to it's end at death.
But our spirit which is inside of the body has no end. Until the day of judgement then God will determine whether we are fit to enter his kingdom or not.
If not then we as Spirit beings are cast into the lake of fire. This is the final end.
uh huh and you're focused on the flesh that counts for nothing and ignoring what jesus told you about the Spirit quickeneth everything.


it is god's spirit; which creates all things in heaven and earth.
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
uh huh and you're focused on the flesh that counts for nothing and ignoring what jesus told you about the Spirit quickeneth everything.


it is god's spirit; which creates all things in heaven and earth.

God's spirit does create all things..but we're not talking about creating..

We're talking about when was our beginning..
Our beginning started back during the first earth age. When God first created us as spirit beings.
Then God made man from the dust of the earth and put us into this body of flesh and blood..
This is our second birth being born of flesh and blood.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
God's spirit does create all things..but we're not talking about creating..

We're talking about when was our beginning..
Our beginning started back during the first earth age. When God first created us as spirit beings.
Then God made man from the dust of the earth and put us into this body of flesh and blood..
This is our second birth being born of flesh and blood.
obviously you're one of the two in daniel. the real you doesn't have a beginning or end for that matter.


daniel 12:2
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
that spirit is god. everlasting, eternal doesn't have a beginning/end


1 Corinthians 6:19-20

Back at our beginning God created us as spirit beings and then God created man of flesh and blood...before this God created us as spirit beings and not of flesh and blood.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
Where else do you think the spirit's came from if God did not create them..
As the angles are spirit beings and God created them.
I don't think the angels created themselves.
the Spirit is eternal. it wasn't created.

ecclesiastes 12:6


it's god's spirit. literally
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
the Spirit is eternal. it wasn't created.

ecclesiastes 12:6


it's god's spirit. literally

You can't be serious.
All things were created by God.

If the spirit is eternal as you say...then explain exactly how Jesus Christ said in the book of
Matthew 10:28--"And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell"

You do know the soul and spirit are one and the same thing..
Therefore the Spirit is not as eternal as you think.
The spirit is a created being..
The Spirit of God was never created and can not be destroyed.
angles are created spirit beings and can be destroyed..
Just like Satan and his angels will be destroyed in the lake of fire..
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
You can't be serious.
All things were created by God.

If the spirit is eternal as you say...then explain exactly how Jesus Christ said in the book of
Matthew 10:28--"And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell"

You do know the soul and spirit are one and the same thing..
Therefore the Spirit is not as eternal as you think.
The spirit is a created being..
The Spirit of God was never created and can not be destroyed.
angles are created spirit beings and can be destroyed..
Just like Satan and his angels will be destroyed in the lake of fire..
the Spirit is not created. the Spirit is eternal and mentioned in genesis 1:2.

that is god's spirit in you, what many call christ, also referred to as immanuel.
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
the Spirit is not created. the Spirit is eternal and mentioned in genesis 1:2.

that is god's spirit in you, what many call christ, also referred to as immanuel.

The Spirit of God is eternal.
Our spirit in not eternal..
God's Spirit and our Spirit are two totally different spirits.
 

SalixIncendium

अग्निविलोवनन्दः
Staff member
Premium Member
**MOD POST**

This thread is in Comparative Religion, which is a non-debate forum. Posts created with the intent of debate are subject to moderation under Rule 10.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
Who's saying anything about the Spirit of God..
talking about the spirit of man..
And not the Spirit of God.

But for some unknown reason you keep dragging the spirit of God into the equation
Not talking about the spirit of God.
Talking about the spirit of man's.

So let's try and stay with the program
talk about the spirit of man's.
Paul says that the Holy Spirit is in man

That is how God was in Jesus. That is how God is in man kind
 
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