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When the Corporate World Gains too Much Power

Discussion in 'Human Affairs, Political Movements and Charities' started by Cooky, Jan 30, 2021.

  1. mikkel_the_dane

    mikkel_the_dane Shadow Wolf's Aspie sibling

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    It is a free market.
     
  2. KenS

    KenS Face to face with my Father
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    "free" is the key. :)
     
  3. mikkel_the_dane

    mikkel_the_dane Shadow Wolf's Aspie sibling

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    No. it is not. You are not free to do what you want in an exchange with another human.
    So here it is: I offered you a deal. You can use my webservice if you follow my rules on the webservice, which I can make, because it is my webservice.
    You are in effect an communist, because you oppose private property rights. So move to Cuba or learn to live in country with private property rights.
     
  4. KenS

    KenS Face to face with my Father
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    I your rules... just for me or is it consistent for everyone..

    Say WHAAAAT? :eek:
     
  5. mikkel_the_dane

    mikkel_the_dane Shadow Wolf's Aspie sibling

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    You don't accept that if you come to my house, that you within the constitution further have to act within my house rules. Your claim is you can behave like you want and it doesn't matter that it is my house and my property. In effect you don't accept private property and thus you are a communist.

    In effect for as pointed out by others for this forum, you can behave as you please, because the owners of this site can't set rules for how you behave on this site. Well, maybe you are not a communist, but an anarchist. It is maybe, that you don't accept private or state property, but just want to do as you please.

    So in other words as a minimum you don't accept at least one form of property rights.
     
  6. KenS

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    Then you haven't read all my posts. If you didn't read them all, I understand what you are saying.

    To recap... their censorship is evenly applied. If they applied their rules correctly, I would have no problem with it.
     
  7. mikkel_the_dane

    mikkel_the_dane Shadow Wolf's Aspie sibling

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    Okay, I stand corrected.
     
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  8. Kooky

    Kooky Freedom from Sanity

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    Are all companies dictatorships? They're run by a CEO/owner and everyone has to do what he/she says, no?

    Is there a free market at all? Are all markets "communistic" where companies exist? :confused:
     
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  9. ben d

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    This guy has nailed it quite well imho, not just conspiracy theory.
     
  10. Twilight Hue

    Twilight Hue Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.

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    I agree with the expert's whom declared its an oligarchy we live in now.

    Corporations meaning too big to fail, now have a direct controlling influence over government that is undeniable, and special interest and lobbying is proof of that.

    With advanced technology available and ever developing, it's only going to get much worse for future generations.

    I think we are actually in the birth stages of a true, even worldwide, dystopia where corporations will demand the government to jump and the government asking, "How high"?
     
  11. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest Abnormal before it was fashionable
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    It would be "communistic" if there were no alternative.
    I'm on different forums. Censorship here is stricter
    than in others. But when government censors, they
    eliminate alternatives. That's bad.
     
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  12. muhammad_isa

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    True..
    ..and the main reasons for this?
    That would be the financial system.

    Almighty God has told us in the Qur'an:-

    ..That is because they have said: "Trade is the same as usury." While God has made trade lawful, and He has made usury unlawful..
    -The Cow-

    Usury causes the rich to get richer, and the poor to get poorer.
    It is not about which govt. has the correct ideology, imo.

    Both Republican and Democrat do not publicly condemn usury.
     
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  13. KenS

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    No.

    The CEO is run by the Board of Directors.
    The Board of Directors are run by stockholders.
    Unions also have a say or, at the very least, people can voluntarily leave the business.
    Business have to follow Governmental rules and regulations.
     
  14. metis

    metis aged ecumenical anthropologist

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    Or the owners/stockholders could sell. :p

    So do unions under both national and state laws.:p:p

    Unions are an exercise in democratic values but autocrats hate them.:p:p:p

    Sick & tired of me yet? :D
     
  15. Stonetree

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    A robot for president ? Who controls the machines? Are the computers stealing our freedoms ? I would be happy with shorter term limits and D. Trump in leg irons...just to limit his terrible attempt at dancing on stage.
     
  16. wellwisher

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    Corporations exist to make money. This money, however, cannot be stolen or commandeered the way Government gains revenue. The business revenue stream depends on free market forces; good products at good prices, and consumer preferences for their products. Google, FaceBook and Apple, to name a few make good products, that are useful, so people willingly go there to shop. Government often offers goods and services, you don't want, at a bad price point you would not pay in the free market.

    Government can take your money by decry, waste it with deficit spending, and even make bad choices by which the tax payers do not benefit; illegal immigration. A business does not have it that easy. They cannot deficit spend for every long or give the people products and service consumers they do not want and still gain money.

    A business operates in a competitive environment so it has to be run by experts in the field. This is unlike government, which has monopoly power and therefore anyone who can "sell themselves", can lead, even if they lack talent. Being the only show in town results in sub par goods and service at high prices.

    Businesses have more rules on them and harder standards. If they do gain power, this is often short lived, unless they can make better products and/or use their profits to bride government officials, so they can linger longer.

    One way to deal with this would be to tax campaign donations. We can treat the campaign as a business and tax it based on their revenue. The term revenue can be expanded to include fake news and bias media offerings that benefit one side, similar to a continuous campaign add.

    This tax will serve two purposes. It will make it more expensive to bribe the government officials and it will make it harder for con artists to take office due to having less resources for illusion and special affects. Ideas will mean more than facade and government can begin to be on par with the tougher business rules and standards.
     
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