Making it about the poster & Trump is indeed a different issue.
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When special interest and lobbies take over key positions with Democrats blessings.
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Father Heathen
Veteran Member
However you wish to slice it, I can't help but question peoples hypocrisy or cognitive dissonance.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Do you honestly think the Pubs are any different?
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
No. They are not. Your correct.
I'm against special interest and lobbies being priorities of whom buy politictions that drive policy and law. No matter who it is. It's out of control and neither party is willing to banish it.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Likely due that Democrats are far more abusive as evidenced by the entrenchment found in blue states due to special interest and lobbies. Particularly New York and California.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Many years ago I had Senator Carl Levin (D) in my poli sci course talking about campaign reform, and he was working with Senator John McCain (R) on this at that time, and one thing they wanted to do was to sharply reduce lobbying monies spent on campaigns. Obviously, they failed, and the final clincher on that was the SCOTUS' "Citizens United" decision, with all the Republican appointed justices saying that it's "free speech".
Thus, we now have the best government companies can buy.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Are you really going to pretend that the same - if not worse - doesn't occur in red states? Are you sure your own perception isn't entrenched?
Come again?
QuestioningMind
Well-Known Member
I don't need to. The fact that you never called out Trump when he appointed DeVos and other equally unqualified individuals to his administration demonstrates your blatant hypocrisy.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Oh, so you don't have an issue with lobbyists or special interest groups? Just "taxpayer unions" specifically?
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Well name some. I'm sure they are there there and yea, I have a beef with taxpayer special interest unions.
Kooky
Freedom from Sanity
No, you need not. The blatant double standard between calling a person with a union background a "lobbyist" and "special interest" while either lauding or outright ignoring the many, many people who have come directly from corporate think-tanks and lobbying groups and gone on straight to key positions in Washington over many, many decades of both Democratic and Republican administrations speaks volumes about how ridiculously lopsided towards the interests of corporations American politics have become.
Kooky
Freedom from Sanity
But the inciting incident for you to rant about it was not one of the many, many corporate-backed hirees, but the single person with a union background in Washington.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Who has influence with that union. An insider that can grant 'favors'.
tytlyf
Not Religious
Every response of yours is a new conspiracy theory. Weird thinking bud. We blame your media.
Such a paranoid culture.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Your just in denial that this stuff happens sunshine.
tytlyf
Not Religious
You admit you just made it up and have no proof.
This is the difference between democrats are republicans.
Republicans are all for corporate lobbying, they are against middle class lobbying.
Your party is controlled by the largest corporations and industries in the country. By a long shot.
If you had any integrity, you'd admit the republican party favors corporations over the American people.
But you don't know that information about your party, because your crooked media doesn't teach you it.
I'd wager the republican base has no idea about republican establishment policies. They're fleeced by the RW media who acts like they're on the worker side. That's the ruse.
You're too proud to admit you've been relying on disinformation for decades.