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When special interest and lobbies take over key positions with Democrats blessings.

Discussion in 'North American Politics' started by Twilight Hue, May 13, 2021.

  1. Twilight Hue

    Twilight Hue The gentle embrace of twilight has become my guide

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  3. Twilight Hue

    Twilight Hue The gentle embrace of twilight has become my guide

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    No. It's pandering to special interest and cementing that special interest to secure yet even more entrenchment.

    Have you ever heard of conflict of interest?

    These people are the ones who fund the Democrats election campaigns and 'encourage' their members to keep voting Democrat.
     
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    Interesting. Where was your outrage when Trump's administration did this?
     
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    At the very least they are qualified for the position, unlike appointing radiologist as an adviser on the coronavirus pandemic. No experience in viruses. Most of Trump's appointments were unqualified for the position.
     
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    Coal industry lobbyist at the EPA and Oil drilling lobbyist at Marine safety were my favorites though.

    To be honest if a person is qualified for the job, as in as experience and training in the domain, isn't directly opposed to the mission of the organism she is supposed to head and don't stand to benefit financially directly from their position, then there are no significant problem. Of course people with in such position have an agenda. They are supposed to. That's what politics is for: setting up agenda and shaping society in a way or another.
     
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  9. Twilight Hue

    Twilight Hue The gentle embrace of twilight has become my guide

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    Unions pressure its members to vote a party line they endorse.

    It's obviously cronyism, paying back a favor in return for a favor done, which helps insure long term entrenchment.
     
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    Find a single thread where I ever supported special interest.

    You won't.
     
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    Yes. That is how the game is played on both sides. When republicans come in, they put business leaders into those positions that have oversight over businesses. They put politicians in positions to judge science.

    This is a general problem with oversight: those who are qualified to do the oversight generally have a position on many key decisions they will make and have been in the industry that is under oversight.

    So, yes, you get a member of the AFL-CIO in a post overseeing labor and a former investment banker heading the SEC or a former oil company executive making climate change regulations.
     
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    Twilight Hue The gentle embrace of twilight has become my guide

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    Yep and this is why everything gets so skewed.

    That includes Republicans as well.
     
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    That sounds more like a prejudice than an informed demonstrable opinion.
     
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    One way to get around qualifications is to appoint an 'acting' whoever. No confirmation necessary.
     
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    The problem is that nobody is qualified to do the oversight unless they have studied the issues involved. That typically means they have been involved in the industry in some way (nobody can get all the required experience without, well, experience).

    So you have either unqualified people doing the work or biased people doing the work. And you can't simply get rid of oversight. So you try for turnover and diverse advisory committees.
     
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    The other aspect is that you expect any president to put people into office that agree with his/her positions. Such people often contribute to the presidential campaign and are more likely to support other priorities of the president.

    And THAT is how it *should* be. elections have consequences. If we put the same people in, those policies that should change because of the election do not get changed.
     
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    Stop inventing things you have no proof of. Why so easily tricked? Always so angry and paranoid
     
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    Another example of Congress not doing its part of oversight. Seems like a similar problem to me: those with a stake in the game are determining who to hold accountable.
     
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    Well, that is completely to be expected. You expect the people put into office by a president to support the agenda of that president and, usually, to support the re-election of that president and that party.

    And, again, that much is how it probably *should* be. For elections to have consequences, this is how it happens.

    What is more concerning is trying to suppress voting or gerymandering districts to entrench power even if the majority of people disagree with the positions of a party. Too few congressional districts are competitive because of the way the district lines are chosen. And too often those lines are drawn to keep one party in power across a state no matter how opinions change.
     
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