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Discussion in 'Health & Healing' started by PopeADope, Jul 11, 2019.

  1. PopeADope

    PopeADope Habemus papam

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    Us Americans get made fun of a lot because of how fat we are, and I hear people from other countries say that the only fat people they see are American tourists.

    I saw the most obese man today. he looks like something you would see in the Guinness book of world records. he was in an electric wheelchair where his groceries full of food hung, and I have no clue how the guy bathes or gets in bed or does anything, he's so huge.

    Being thin, I used to look down on such people, but then I realized, I see myself in him. I'm guilty of a different type of gluttony known as drug addiction. I've got many other faults and am sick in other ways.

    From now on when I see a fat person, I'm just going to say "there goes I"!

    It is hypocritical for a sick person with many vices to judge and condemn someone who has a different vice or sickness.

    Do you agree?
     
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    Yes. You're a good guy!
     
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    PopeADope Habemus papam

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    He looks so uncomfortable there with his many rolls of carbohydrate stores protruding everywhere. There's no way he could have gotten around in a wheelchair that wasn't electric. Hes basically paralyzed by his obesity. Its invaded his neck, face, changed the shape of his head, and in everything and everywhere!

    I could not imagine the amount of suffering such a person has to endure on a daily basis. I never really realized that.

    He probably smells, needs help bathing, cant clean his room or make his bed, cannot do laundry, has few if any friends, and is aware that he is gossiped about , made fun of, and judged everywhere he goes. That's a human being with feelings! :(
     
  4. Road Less Traveled

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    Well, if there is an advantage to having large mass: gravity should help attract more people to them.

    If you’re aware as to your own hypocrisies and are an accurate judge: would it then be bad to laugh inside, and also just know the truth that that person’s body is large? While at the same time, being impartial and seeing them as a human being.

    A lot of people also have obese bodies, yet are secure and unable to be offended. They’ll even laugh at their own body.
     
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    PopeADope Habemus papam

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    He's easily the most obese person I've ever seen in real life. I knew I went to that lunds for a reason. He spoke a sermon to me without having to say a word.

    all of us can silently speak sermons to people and we do not know the impact we have on them. That is another lesson I learned from this big man.

    It reminds me of the words of Saint Francis of Assisi, "we shall preach the gospel always, and sometimes we will use words when necessary"
     
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    PopeADope Habemus papam

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    You are correct! John Candy and Chris Farley used their obesity to make people laugh, and they not only got rich and famous from it, but they enjoyed it, it seems.

    But maybe these people deserve dignity and shouldn't be good for a laugh.
     
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    Lots of people are also obese because of other medical issues.
     
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    Being impartial, it makes no difference to me whether someone has a large body, a medium body, or a small body. I suppose that it would matter to be in sexual relations, but that too I can go without... so irrelevant.

    Also, it’s never good to laugh at someone if it makes them weak, or insecure.

    There are also people I’ve known that have become thankful for someone being bold and straightforward (in kinder and more modified ways) towards them regarding their body weight, and really helped transform their lives. At first, they’d be pissed off, sensitive but it became fuel to pursue better health.
     
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    PopeADope Habemus papam

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    That is true, but to be 400 + pounds usually involves a dietary issue as well. There are countries where you almost never see an obese person.
     
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    Very true, and can even eat healthy and minimally with exercise and still have an obese body.
     
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    At the end of the day, I’d rather personally see someone have control of their body and eat because they autonomously choose and want to, rather than be under biological compulsion to.
     
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    It all breaks down to diet. 'We are what we eat' and sugary, fat saturated carbs are comfort food. Its a vicious cycle where eating to compensate for depression adds weight, and the weight becomes another burden to carry (literally) that adds to the depression. Getting to the cause of the depression and helping such people out of that seemingly hopeless situation is a great challenge because they have to want to change.

    I see so many good things in you PaD and your honesty is most refreshing. You have a good heart, often at the mercy of your mental illness, but your goodness shines through in every way. Don't ever doubt God's love for those who try their best, even if its not everyone else's best, God sees what you would be without your illness. We do too.
     
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    You are erroneously assuming all obese people are "gluttons." I used to believe the same thing, in fact, and thought that obesity was simply a self-control issue. But it's not that simple. Many overweight and obese people may have an underlying metabolic disorder. I realized this when I saw how my 5'5 300 lb colleague barely eats more than I do, yet I'm half his size. I could binge eat compulsively and still never even reach the "overweight" threshold. In fact, if I don't eat at least 4 times a day, I lose weight without even trying. People who are overweight may not be gluttons, and obesity may in fact be a symptom of a more serious underlying metabolic disorder.
     
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    PopeADope Habemus papam

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    Thanks Dee!

    It means a lot. You and i are polar opposites in so many ways , yet can agree on so many things and not despise each other.

    I'm surprised to hear that love coming from you. We are works in progress!. Peace and good will to you my friend, and great post! :)
     
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    PopeADope Habemus papam

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    Enoch07 It's all a sick freaking joke.
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    That's a lie. There is plenty of fat folk in Europe, and Asia. You should go see the world for yourself and not just believe what the media tells you about the world.
     
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    PopeADope Habemus papam

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    I'm not saying I believe those people. I'm saying I've heard those comments made about us " American pigs"
     
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    Enoch07 It's all a sick freaking joke.
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    Yeah it's just haters. You wouldn't believe the amount of jealousy that is out there.
     
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    I hear you.....sometimes we get so focused on the negatives that we forget to praise the positives. :oops:
    I have never hated people...though sometimes when they cross the line and try to justify what God condemns it can get under my skin a bit, but Jesus loved the people who came to him for guidance. But, he never chased after the ones who didn't.

    We are most certainly a work in progress. Peace to you also.
     
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