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When critique make you grow spiritually

Discussion in 'Journals' started by Conscious thoughts, Mar 4, 2021.

  1. Conscious thoughts

    Conscious thoughts Veteran Member

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    A part of me dislike critique and i sometimes feel it deep within me....but realizing that without the critique i would not study or read as much as i do.
    Being a member of RF can sometimes feel really difficult especially if someone "stepping" on the belief in the religious practice.

    But after some thinking i come to the answer.

    If i can handle the critique or difficult guidance from my teacher, why should i react different if a RF critique my belief or understanding of islam. I should take it as a clue to study more. And work on my attachments to end them :)

    The only one who hurt me is my own ego, it seems to stuck deeper than i first thought :oops:
     
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  2. Israel Khan

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    This is a natural feeling. We feel hurt when deeply held beliefs are challenged. It is a pretty human aspect of ourselves. :) Being challenged is probably the fastest way to grow because it weeds out your own faulty reasoning. Imagine if people weren't challenged? They would have no need to progress.
     
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  3. lewisnotmiller

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    Good points.
    I've grown good at taking criticism or challenge where someone's intent is positive...whether that's to educate me, or at least with legitimate honesty.

    I still struggle with it when it's more destructive in nature...not that I can't handle it, but I put up my shutters, deflecting with humour or occasionally snark.
     
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  4. SomeRandom

    SomeRandom Still learning to be wise
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    My stubbornness often prevents my growth when I’m criticised. Though I have gotten better at it lately. To be criticised is to be given pointers on how to improve. (Though it helps if that critique is offered nicely.)
     
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  5. Conscious thoughts

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    How do you react if it is the same person who "critique" you over and over again, not based on your belief but from their own understanding of your belief?
     
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    SomeRandom Still learning to be wise
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    Depends.
    I usually try to engage in a dialogue. Though my drunk self sometimes will just be dumb about it.
    Sometimes two people have very different ideas as to what constitutes what should be critiqued and what shouldn’t. For instance, if an Aunty criticised my manners I would conduct myself more cordially next time. However that critique is only viable in that circumstance since manners doesn’t always translate across the paradigms.

    Sometimes I have to just throw up my hands and walk away. Like when my cousin (who is Catholic) criticised my stance on some social issue, I think it was SSM. Or maybe just my open stance on sexuality in general, I don’t remember. Either way, I love my cousin. But our totally different worlds were colliding.
    I’ve had the same conversation with my other cousins who were a more laid back flavour of Christianity and I think we had a very fruitful conversation all things considered. My Catholic cousin though? I mean I love her, she’s family. But that was a dead end.
    So I guess it depends on the circumstance :shrug:
     
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    How to smack someone virtually to get them of my back :confused::p
    I can't keep hitting the screen in frustration :oops:
     
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    Aww. Well you could be passive aggressive or change the subject. I’m not sure
     
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    Hehe :) i dont actually beat the crap out of my screen, just thinking of it some times :p
     
  10. Aupmanyav

    Aupmanyav Be your own guru

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    Good that you realized.
     
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    Hmm... It's not just based in ego, but it's based in the things we care about.

    Our first reaction is to respond in the same way we might respond if someone were to attack a friend or family. We get defensive! I can't help but feel like this is personifying a concept... How dare someone say something bad about the thing I care about?

    It's not a person, though. It doesn't have feelings. It means something to us, but it exists in our absence and doesn't rely on us in any way. It doesn't need a defender.

    What it does need, though, is understanding. Understanding from yourself will give you the knowledge needing to correct others when they have misconceptions, and gaps revealed by others in your own understanding can be corrected. It's useful- to a point. There is a point when people have nothing left to teach, and at that point it's better to move on. :)

    If they are persistent and rude, well... You have 2 choices. You can ignore them, or you can have a little fun and mock them. :D
     
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