What's the Deal with Evolution?

[Justanatheist]

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Disclaimer: I could myself be considered a kind of creationist, so I'm not here to rag on them!

But what is with this mostly Christian obsession (although I have seen it in the Muslim world too) with the theory of evolution? Aren't there better things to wrangle about? Healthier things to focus on?

It is about getting religion in the classroom, from the Scopes monkey trial to the Dover ID trial it's all about catching them when their young.

 

[Brickjectivity]

I didn’t say that evolution absolutely falsifies theism, all I said is that evolution makes theism a little bit less probable given the truth of evolution.

I don't follow this reasoning. I think it affects how we view God, not whether God exists.

In other words, if the earth would have been 6,000 years old with complex animals and humans since the beginning theism would be more likely to be true

That's what Henry Morris claims, but I think he's just selling books. Suppose you saw a man rise from the dead. Would this make you more likely to repent of sin? Jesus seems to be saying in his parable about Lazarus and the Rich Man that it wouldn't. I think he implies that miraculous proofs undermine rather than support faith. Ironically he does say that the Pharisees ought to believe him on the basis of his signs, but I think he is speaking ironically. They of course are not permitted to believe on that basis per principle of Deuteronomy 13. Henry Morris with his book The Genesis Flood rekindled a lot of superstitions about how faith works. He was wrong, and he shouldn't have peddled this.

Yes testimonies from people who became atheist due to evolution (Richard dawkins would be an example)

I have personally known two people who converted to Christ not because of miraculous proofs but because they felt it was the right thing to do, that the world was too cold, that God's way was the way for them. Just want to point out that they didn't care about miracles.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

I know nothing about human behavior?
That's hilarious! How old are you, twelve or thirteen?

This is the sort of thing I think we can all expect from you. It isn't our first rodeo. We have seen lots of people behave like you are.

There is not point in talking to you. You won't answer questions. The best you can do is immature and childish personal attacks.

Thanks for confirming what I already knew.

 

[Wildswanderer]

There is not point in talking to you. You won't answer questions. The best you can do is immature and childish personal attacks.

Pot and kettle.

 

[Revoltingest]

Gentlemen, gentlemen....making it so personal & negative
risks mods rapping knuckles. Let's just agree to disagree.

 

[Muffled]

Disclaimer: I could myself be considered a kind of creationist, so I'm not here to rag on them!

But what is with this mostly Christian obsession (although I have seen it in the Muslim world too) with the theory of evolution? Aren't there better things to wrangle about? Healthier things to focus on?

For my granddaughter evolution meant the Bible was wrong and could be ignored. I had to instruct her that evolution was not a proven theory.

 

[Muffled]

If the dominant beliefs involved sun worship then nuclear fusion would be a controversial idea, an evil godless philosophy of the devil an responsible for all the evils in the world.

I believe there is not even a remote comparison.

 

[Rival]

For my granddaughter evolution meant the Bible was wrong and could be ignored. I had to instruct her that evolution was not a proven theory.

But this is hardly the only position. It's not black or white.

 

[Muffled]

I think there are plenty, esp. knowing that its all so long ago, and we can't really know for sure (from personal experience; its all just hearsay)

Who is telling the story? The bones or the scientists. It takes a lot of imagination to tell a story from bones.

 

[Muffled]

But this is hardly the only position. It's not black or white.

I believe scientists think it is proven but then doctors thought that bleeding people was good science.

 

[Muffled]

I honestly haven't met a creationist before. In person, none ever brought up the subject. What do you believe as a creationalist? (Ed-jucate the savage).

A crationist believes there is enough scientific evidence to prove that everything was created with a high probability.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

For my granddaughter evolution meant the Bible was wrong and could be ignored. I had to instruct her that evolution was not a proven theory.

No theory is proven. That seems to be a basic point that many do no understand. No religion is proven either.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

A crationist believes there is enough scientific evidence to prove that everything was created with a high probability.

What is the evidence being used and how does it demonstrate creation? How are the probabilities calculated?

 

[Dan From Smithville]

I believe scientists think it is proven but then doctors thought that bleeding people was good science.

Scientist do not think that. Are there more recent and better examples to support your claim about science. Remember it was using science that got the doctors to stop bleeding people to get rid of the bad humors.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Who is telling the story? The bones or the scientists. It takes a lot of imagination to tell a story from bones.

It takes a lot of evidence too.

 

[stvdv]

Who is telling the story? The bones or the scientists. It takes a lot of imagination to tell a story from bones.

Exactly, that is what I was saying too (in other words)

 

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[tas8831]

I know nothing about human behavior?
That's hilarious! How old are you, twelve or thirteen?

Look at the plagiarist, all upset that nobody is bowing down!!

 

[tas8831]

There thosands of missing parts. How can a butterfly develop gps to get it to a warmer climate without the whole species dying in the process?

GPS??
LOL!

How can a species develop camouflage without going extinct because of predation before that ever happens?

Non sequitur.
[quote[
Michael Denton:“Neither of the two fundamental axioms” of neo Darwinism,“…continuity of nature…linking all species together and ultimately leading back to a primeval cell” and “adaptive design…from a blind random process have been validated by one single empirical discovery or scientific advance since 1859.”[/QUOTE]
"Blind random process"? No wonder legitimate biologists laugh at Denton's nonsense.

 

[tas8831]

They are inherently selfish... There's always a pecking order. There's no compassion for the weak.

Sounds like the Trump crime family.