What's the Big Deal with Israel?

[Godobeyer]

I guess...

i guess too

 

[Skwim]

Why?
I quoted your OP.
At least that's what I thought I did. My phone and RF reply box don't get along and all sorts of stupid things happen. Was that somebody else's post? I'm sorry if I messed up.
All too possible.
Tom

Yeah, I think you may be having phone issues.

 

[rosends]

I have big doubt about homeless in Israel

I am not sure what tents was for , it's seems to me for protests !!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Israeli_social_justice_protests

and someone laying in middle of proper street !!!

you consider poor Arabs town as homeless (in Israel which majority of Jews) !

that's very confused

The last Israeli street protests I recall were protesting the high rate of homelessness actually. And you ask what I consider when, again, that is immaterial. The newspaper report gave the statistics of homelessness in Israel. Religion and culture were not the issue.

 

[rosends]

He has the right to be skeptical, what's the problem with that ?

Skepticism for the sake of choosing not to believe, even without any contrary facts, opens the door for a refusal to believe anything simply by claiming skepticism. If you think that that is healthy, then fine. I think it is irrational

 

[rosends]

But he doesn't believe the report and he has the right to refuse it, you can't force him to accept and to believe the Israeli reports.

And if he had any contrary facts then that would be a reasonable reaction. But he doesn't -- just simple refusal to believe.

 

[FearGod]

Skepticism for the sake of choosing not to believe, even without any contrary facts, opens the door for a refusal to believe anything simply by claiming skepticism. If you think that that is healthy, then fine. I think it is irrational

To believe a thing as to be a fact then you have to check it yourself.

Did you see the 100 homeless Jews living in Israel ?
Did you investigate if they were Jews or gentiles ?

 

[Godobeyer]

The last Israeli street protests I recall were protesting the high rate of homelessness actually. And you ask what I consider when, again, that is immaterial. The newspaper report gave the statistics of homelessness in Israel. Religion and culture were not the issue.

nope , it's was for justice , check Motivations

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Israeli_social_justice_protests

 

[rosends]

nope , it's was for justice , check Motivations

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Israeli_social_justice_protests

If you read what I wrote you will see that I wasn't commenting on the link, but on my personal experience, which you can ignore if you want.

 

[rosends]

To believe a thing as to be a fact then you have to check it yourself.

Did you see the 100 homeless Jews living in Israel ?
Did you investigate if they were Jews or gentiles ?

Oh, I see. So if I read a newspaper article I am supposed to assume it is full of lies unless I go and investigate all the statements myself. Got it. makes perfect sense. This makes it tough to read the Sports section, but whatever you say.

 

[FearGod]

Oh, I see. So if I read a newspaper article I am supposed to assume it is full of lies unless I go and investigate all the statements myself. Got it. makes perfect sense. This makes it tough to read the Sports section, but whatever you say.

 

[rosends]

yes, that's exactly how I feel.

 

[Godobeyer]

If you read what I wrote you will see that I wasn't commenting on the link, but on my personal experience, which you can ignore if you want.

seems some Jews don't know how to lie !!!


I found this link , watch out what the title of topic , and comment of picture
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homelessness_in_Israel

the title is
Homelessness in Israel

read what under the picture this :

Housing protest on Rothschild Boulevard,Tel Aviv, 2011

 

[Flankerl]

seems some Jews don't know how to lie !!!

That must confuse you.

 

[Godobeyer]

That must confuse you.

no that's confirm my untrust

 

[Flankerl]

So people protest that other people are Homeless.


Oh man those Jews. When will they ever learn???

 

[Godobeyer]

So people protest that other people are Homeless.


Oh man those Jews. When will they ever learn???

the protest was not for homeless , it's was :

Young Israelis seen near tents set up on Rothschild Avenue in Tel Aviv are pressing the Israeli government to find a solution to the soaring cost of housing, July 26, 2011


from this link :
http://www.jta.org/2011/07/26/news-...ng-protests-roil-israel-as-tent-cities-pop-up

 

[Godobeyer]

and
http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/israels-housing-protest

 

[FearGod]

the protest was not for homeless , it's was :

Young Israelis seen near tents set up on Rothschild Avenue in Tel Aviv are pressing the Israeli government to find a solution to the soaring cost of housing, July 26, 2011


from this link :
http://www.jta.org/2011/07/26/news-...ng-protests-roil-israel-as-tent-cities-pop-up

They still don't understand or pretending to.

 

[rosends]

seems some Jews don't know how to lie !!!


I found this link , watch out what the title of topic , and comment of picture
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homelessness_in_Israel

the title is
Homelessness in Israel

read what under the picture this :

Housing protest on Rothschild Boulevard,Tel Aviv, 2011

I will try to break this down for you and use simple words:

1. I saw a protest against homelessness when I was in Israel. This is a fact. You can choose to ignore it or not believe it, but it is a fact.
2. The wikipedia page has 2 components:
a. The fact that homelessness exists
b. The fact that during the protests, people set up tents
c. The protests were against the cost of housing which is rising so more people are defaulting on mortgages and being thrown out of their houses and thus becoming HOMELESS.

try, just try, to balance these myriad facts in your head before you fly off and type something else ignorant.

3. Homelessness in Israel exists. Some homeless people are Arabs, some Jews, some other. If you keep reading the wiki page you inserted in that other post, you will see this. If you read the news articles posted, you will see this. You can claim that the whole world is lying if that suits you. Some homeless people live in shelters, some on the street.

You can accuse everyone else in the world of lying, like there is some grand conspiracy to make a claim about homelessness just to be contrary, but you would be wrong.

 

[FearGod]

I will try to break this down for you and use simple words:

1. I saw a protest against homelessness when I was in Israel. This is a fact. You can choose to ignore it or not believe it, but it is a fact.
2. The wikipedia page has 2 components:
a. The fact that homelessness exists
b. The fact that during the protests, people set up tents
c. The protests were against the cost of housing which is rising so more people are defaulting on mortgages and being thrown out of their houses and thus becoming HOMELESS.

try, just try, to balance these myriad facts in your head before you fly off and type something else ignorant.

3. Homelessness in Israel exists. Some homeless people are Arabs, some Jews, some other. If you keep reading the wiki page you inserted in that other post, you will see this. If you read the news articles posted, you will see this. You can claim that the whole world is lying if that suits you. Some homeless people live in shelters, some on the street.

You can accuse everyone else in the world of lying, like there is some grand conspiracy to make a claim about homelessness just to be contrary, but you would be wrong.

Soaring cost of housing doesn't mean homelessness, is that difficult to understand.