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Featured What would Jesus do, a question for Republican's

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by Lyndon, Sep 28, 2017.

  1. SkepticThinker

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    The Florida Legislature, the Governor of the state, Senators from Tennessee and Wyoming, Representatives from Texas, Virginia and Illinois, the Congress (that passed "Terri's Law" which gave Jeb Bush the authority to intervene), and the US President were all involved in some way. If that's not direct government interference/involvement, I don't know what is.

    I didn't have to ask the Prime Minister of Canada or the Premier of some province I don't live in, if I could remove my father from life support. The authority for that decision to be placed in my hands came from my father alone.
     
  2. Enoch07

    Enoch07 It's all a sick freaking joke.
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    They would not have intervened if not for the power struggle between the parents of the patiennt and the patients husband. Which only got worse with lawsuit and millions of dollars at stake. It's totally different than the govt just stepping in and making the decision.
     
  3. SkepticThinker

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    The government did step in and make decisions, all the way up the line from the Governor to the Congress to the President. This fits with what you have been talking about.


    If my sister and I disagreed about turning off my father's machines, it would come down to lawyers and paperwork. The Prime Minister wouldn't step in at any point. And this is a country where we have universal health care.
     
  4. BSM1

    BSM1 What? Me worry?

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    No, he didn't. Just because you want something to be true doesn't make it so. Facts are tricky little devils.
     
  5. Faithofchristian

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    There's where you go wrong at.

    First you have to establish what is the difference between a true Christian and a false Christian ?

    Do you know the difference between them?
     
  6. SkepticThinker

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    Nope, I'm right when I say that the vast majority of Democrats in Congress identify as Christian. They do.

    Depends on which Christian(s) you're talking to.
    I know what the No True Scotsman Fallacy is.

    No True Scotsman - RationalWiki
     
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  7. Lyndon

    Lyndon "Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
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    Yeah the Republican ones are generally false Christians or Hypocrites, not that all the Democrat ones are that much better.
     
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    So Jesus would support free college. Why aren't Republican Christians on board with free college?

    Secondly, where is someone in Detroit going to go to fish so he can feed his family, also, what if he can't afford a fishing permit if he can find somewhere to fish?
     
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    That's not the point of the OP. The point of the OP is about people who CLAIM to be Christian yet spit on the poor every chance they get.
     
  10. JustWondering

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    What did Jesus say about the rich? Many Republicans claim to be Christian but seem interested in helping the rich get richer, usually at the expense of the poor. How is it that almost every other modern country can afford Universal Healthcare for their people yet the richest country the world has ever seen cannot? The answer, the rich control the US and don't want to pay for other people to have health care. Its as simple as that.
     
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    I know what the No True Scotsman Fallacy is.

    No True Scotsman - RationalWiki[/QUOTE]

    The corporate sell out Democrats are no better than Republicans.
     
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    The most the experimental treatment could have done was extend the babies suffering, not save his life, not repair his severe brain damage, just keep him alive a while longer in PAIN. The parents obviously were hoping for the best but numerous medical experts agreed that the experimental treatment would only extend the child's suffering and nothing more.
     
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    So what are the Republicans kick *** plans to help people get on their feet and support themselves?
     
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    Where is the freedom for people who cannot afford healthcare? They have the freedom to die because they cannot afford treatment and medication? So the freedom you want the poor to have is the choice between no healthcare and no healthcare? I'm sure Jesus would be down with that.
     
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    What did Jesus say about the rich? You can look it up. I'm not your servant. If you read what I posted then you know that what I said was that Jesus TAUGHT us many good things but He did not take very many actions to fix things.

    Many Republicans claim to be Christians but seem to be interested in getting richer? And poor people don't want to become richer?

    Are the super rich that way at the expense of the poor? To some degree, yes, they are. I would absolutely agree that we need to change some things, raise the minimum wage for one. BUT, Jesus did not force His ideas upon us.

    If you want to get into a regular debate about politics, I'm all for it but that topic goes in a different section. Jesus did not declare Himself a Democrat or say that everyone should be a Democrat.

    How is it that every other modern country can afford universal healthcare for their people but we cannot? We can't because we're greedy, that's why. There are too many hands in the bucket.

    The rich control the US? They do. They're called Senators.

    But what does any of that have to do with Jesus?

    And just for the record, I'm a Democrat.
     
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    I have to call BS here. You only get charged for not having insurance. If you have insurance regardless of how/where you got it, you can't be charged the penalty for not having insurance. So, you either don't know what you're talking about or are being purposely dishonest. Which is it?
     
  17. JustWondering

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    He supposedly died to teach us we should be compassionate and generous to each other. Maybe you're talking about a different Jesus than me?

    Yes and yes.

    So we agree on this at least, good.

    I never claimed he did so where is this coming from?

    Agreed, the rich need their tax cuts, screw everyone else.

    And the rich elites who own them.

    *sigh* The OP is about the hypocrisy of Republicans who claim to be good Christians yet spit on the poor. Try to keep up.

    So? Hillary and her corporate sell out cronies (most of the Democratic party) are no better.
     
  18. JustWondering

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    Is that a quote from Jesus? Keep that gem in mind if you ever fall on hard times and someone throws it back in your face.
     
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    "Obamacare" is a Republican plan that is a giveaway to the insurance companies. Obama is a sell out just like the Republicans are. All the ACA did was force people to get insurance or get penalized. It didn't enforce any price controls, didn't foster free market and competition. The ACA is a joke and a desperate distraction by Republicans and Democrats (because they're both corporate sell outs) trying to kill talk and action towards universal healthcare. That's the reality. We need a third party that actually cares about the American people as a whole instead of caring about just the 1%.
     
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    Can you point me to where it says these things in the bible, thanks.
     
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