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Featured What was God Thinking? Earth May Be Home to 1 trillion Species!

Discussion in 'Evolution Vs. Creationism' started by Skwim, Feb 14, 2020.

  1. Skwim

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    (August 24, 2011)
    "Our planet could be harboring over one trillion species, 99.999% of which still wait to be discovered according to two American scientists.

    The estimates in the study authored by Jay T. Lennon and Kenneth J. Locey of Indiana University and published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences on May 2, are based on the compilation of government, academic and citizen science sources covering over 5.6 million species from microscopic and non-microscopic species from some 35,000 locations across all the oceans and continents except Antarctica. The calculations were made in accord with scaling laws developed at the Indiana University. The researchers combined the results of over 20,000 sampling efforts on bacteria, archaea and fungi and nearly 15.000 on trees, birds and mammals.

    As might be expected, the so far under-sampled microrganisms make up the great majority of the estimated 1 trillion species.

    Although it is known that a single gram of soil may contain up to a billion microorganisms, these have been largely ignored in sampling efforts, the authors point out. Noting that even the global multidisciplinary effort, the Earth Microbiome Project could identify less than 10 million species, they estimate that 100,000 times that have yet to be discovered."
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    Even if this number sounds extremely high, and to me it does, more conservative estimates are still pretty high. From a report of the same year (2011 Aug; 9)


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    11 MILLION species on the planet!

    If indeed all 11 million were created by god as is, as creationists would have us believe, what was god thinking to have made that many? Do we really need 33,600 species of fish? And why 72,500 species of algae? Moreover, wouldn't a handful of beetle species have been adequate rather than plopping 1.5 million of them down on planet Earth?

    God appears to have really gone off the deep end here, whereas evolution, lacking any goal, seems a FAR more reasonable explanation. Nature can't help itself, but god can.

    Or doesn't this seem at all reasonable?

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  2. osgart

    osgart Nothing my eye, Something for sure

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    You forgot the ever flowing stream of consciousness that gives rise to all living things.
     
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    You seem confused.

    God created the universe. Evolution came much later.

    Or maybe you are just trolling creationists (of the "Earth is only 6000 years old" variety)?
     
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    God is nature. And the nature of this God is sociopathic. And you forgot to mention that ALL of these 11 million species
    KILL each other in order to survive. "Mother nature" …….ain't she sweet ?
     
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    Not really. I don't recall pine trees or welwitschias killing anything in order to survive.

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    Don't fool yourself.....everything "eats" something else that has life energy. Even if it's microscopic , which both of the things you mention do
     
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    Ever hear of air plants? Obviously not.

    Air plants.
    The plants absorb nutrients, especially calcium and water, from the air and rainfall. . . . "They use foliar minerals (calcium, magnesium, potassium and phosphorus) leached from the plants. This provides an abundant supply of nutrients to the plant rather than through their roots."


    "Air Plants, also known as Tillandsia, are some of the easiest plants to care for - but they do require some care and proper environmental considerations in order to thrive. While they are called "air plants" as they do not require soil and take their nutrients from the air, they still need water, nutrients, and light to survive. Air Plants are technically epiphytes, meaning that they grow in nature on another tree, host, or object. However, they do not steal nutrients from their host, only using it as a home to grow on. Air plants use tiny vessels located throughout their leaves called trichomes to capture nutrients and moisture from the air.

    Oh yes, just what is it that pines and welwitschias kill in order to survive?

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    Gotta admit to dumb here. I've never heard on any flowing stream of consciousness that gives rise to all living things. Care to explain it, along with your evidence? And exactly what it has to do with the incredible diversity of species on Earth.

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    Never said he didn't.

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    Ever hear that everything is "alive", including nutrients ? Obviously not.
     
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    That’s true. Everything is fun and games until the fruitcake gets belligerent.
     
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    Lets see, air plants survive by the absorption of Nitrogen, Potassium, Phosphorus, Calcium, and Magnesium. Now which of these elements is alive and has to be killed, or is it all of them? :D


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    ALL of them
     
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    Skwim Q: "I've never heard on any flowing stream of consciousness that gives rise to all living things. Care to explain it, along with your evidence?

    Okay, so you can't explain it.

    Have a good day.

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    Here is the "evidence"...………………...(wait for it)…..(wait for it)…...there.
    there it is...…. Oh, you don't get it ?
    While you were waiting, who were you talking to ?
    Was it.....your "SELF" ?
     
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