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What the heck is "joyofsatan"?

Toten

Toten

Member
Honestly, I see comments and remarks everywhere on YouTube. History videos, music, mythology documentaries... there's always one or several people who say things like:
"666 is the number of the Sun.
Know the Truth!
Odin is Satan!
Joyofsatan(DOT)com!
666Blacksun(DOT)com!"

And they're always extremely similar too. Every one of them posts in that exact same way, with the name of the site and the word (DOT) even though you can post links in YouTube comments.
I've been to the site once and read a bit about it. Very bizarre in my opinion, to say the least. From what I could tell it seemed like a meshing of satanist religion with National Socialism and paganism. Saying things like Odin is satan or satan is an ancient sun deity.
Why are there so many people trying to promote such a site? And always using the exact same style of posting (like the "dots")? Are they instructed to?
 
Saint Frankenstein

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
A neo-Nazi Satanist cult that worships Satan as a blond, blue-eyed alien on another planet that talks to them through telepathy. Ignore them.
 
Mindmaster

Mindmaster

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Toten said:
Honestly, I see comments and remarks everywhere on YouTube. History videos, music, mythology documentaries... there's always one or several people who say things like:
"666 is the number of the Sun.
Know the Truth!
Odin is Satan!
Joyofsatan(DOT)com!
666Blacksun(DOT)com!"
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JoS has never been a player in the Satanic sense, but they've been around for a good long time. Like anything there are people who accept every silly notion that the leaders of the group murmur, and there are those who are just hanging to find a place to associate with other theistic Satanists. Many people are just associated with them because they don't know anyone else or form their belief system on the Al-Jilwah and JoS at least seemingly agree with that. Of course, they are into a bunch of silly NAZI stuff too that has nothing to do with it. I wouldn't call it a cult, but rather just a group of NAZI's who do Satan on sunday because they come from broken homes. It makes sense that they start bringing the Odin crap into the whole thing too as the seig heils have gone out of style with the white power racist freaks, so they're all going heathen. Trendy eh? :)
 
K

Kapalika

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
They were (still are?) run by a christian in some neo-nazi circle. A lot of their material is plagiarized, a lot was just lazily made up. Obviously most of it is nonsensical (like most religions but more so since they make claims about the modern world that can't possibly be true). The group is also high on drama because unstable people lead it and are involved with it.

My pet theory is that the christian neo nazi's made the group in an attempt to use a dark and dirty method to curse synagogues and stuff.

Not that that stuff really works, but if your Christian you probably believe that demons and Satan have power and would be willing to trick dumb teenagers into doing your rituals if you irrationally hated a group of people as much as freakin' Nazis do.

An account of mine has been in one of their private/exclusive online groups for years now, just to see what stupid thing they will say next. 90% of it is about how much they don't like Jews or some random racist crap or about curses or random nonsense. Which just strengthens my theory in my mind.

Either way, anyone who identifies with neo-nazism or condones it, or condones their ideas are some of the worst human beings. I would never willingly or knowingly associate or be friends with anyone who's been involved with that kind of thing. One time I learned one of my friends were secretly into that stuff and it kind of felt like a betrayal since the Nazi's literally killed people like me. Suffice to say they are no longer my friend.
 
The Kilted Heathen

The Kilted Heathen

Crow FreyjasmaðR
Toten said:
"Odin is Satan!"
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Serpent Child

Serpent Child

Member
There are thousands of Satanists whom associate with Joy of Satan (JoS) and the numbers are growing. I've heard "Spiritual Satanism" is a term coined by the JoS. Let me give you a rundown of their beliefs-

True Ancient Satanism is based upon the ancient religions, such as Ancient Hinduism and Ancient Buddhism. Some of the Ancient Satanic Scriptures are the Al-Jilwah, the Qu'ret Al Yezid, the Emerald Tablets of Thoth, Sanskrit Texts, ect. Since Satan's name is found in ancient sumerian Hieroglyphs (IMG_3594 — Postimage.org), its believed He is also the Sumerian God Enki/Ea. In their faith Satan is also: Shiva, Loki, Odin, Agni, Legba, Enkai, Anki (this is where Ankh comes from), Phanes, Oannes, Prometheus, Dionysus, Buddha, Cronos, Saturn, and many, many more. Demons are the Original Pagan Gods of the Gentiles as well so its believed Demons are also Egyptian, Sumerian, Greek, Celtic, Irish, African, Asian, Norse, Indian, Babylonian, ect Gods/Goddesses (and that Demons of Satan are advanced Siddha's from other galaxies).

The whole goal of True Ancient Satanism is to raise the Kundalini Serpent (that lays dormant at the base of the spine and once its raised you reach Godhead) and complete the Magnum Opus (spiritual & physical immortality) as Satan intended it to be. So basically becoming a God and Immortal through power meditation, they have to make their own power meditation program and meditate every single day. They work, empower and open their Chakras daily. Reincarnation is a fact in this religion and they do past life hypnosis / past life meditations to gain the knowledge from their past lives.

Now they believe Satan and His Daemons are highly advanced extraterrestrials from the planet DU'AT, its in the Orion Region. They think Satan and His Daemons are also the "Anunnaki" and that Satan along with some of the Gods (Demons) created Humanity through genetically engineering the hominids that were already there [believed that Satam is a scientist and genetics engineer). Its a misconception that they (Annunaki / just look up "ancient Sumerian Tablets" for this) wanted to make Humans as slaves for gold mining or as a slave race, they actually created Humans to help the Gods (Demons), the earth and to be the stewards of the earth - the wise care takers of our planet.

THIS IS WHERE PEOPLE HAVE PROBLEMS. Its believed Satan and His Daemons are National-Socialists and that Adolf Hitler was a Spiritual Satanist. They also believe the Jewish Holocaust was over-exaggerated and a lie, that millions of people DID die but by disease not death camps. Its believed that the Jewish Race is an alien race not created by Satan, that the Jews were put here by Reptilians and that they have Reptilian DNA. That its programmed into the Jews DNA and in their soul to destroy Gentiles and the planet. Its also believed that National-Socialism is Political Satanism while Communism is Political Judaism.
They do Reverse Torah Rituals (the purpose of these rituals are to reverse the curses and biblical curses put upon Gentiles, have Gentiles wake up, have Gentiles have the right to rule their own Nations, ect these are NOT cursing rituals and are not about Dark Magick at all) because they believe Rabbi's or something curse Gentiles for hours everyday.
Some believe it was a lie that Hitler died and that Hitler actually completed the Magnum Opus.

Also believed that the Jews created the Abrahamic Religions and invented the bible (the Bible is jewish witchcraft) to have the Gentiles as slaves and make the Gentiles as an energy supply for them (Jesus was Jewish). And that the rest of the religions were corrupted by Jews (like Shintoism, Buddhism, Hinduism, ect). Some believe that Jehovah, Yaweh, Allah, Jesus are simply thought-forms and the extraterrestrials that are enemies to Humanity (the Greys and Reptilians) that hide behind that title. And that Abrahamic Angels are genderless and have no free-will, just meaningless thoughtforms that only cause harm.

Thats basically the bulk of it. Please keep in mind beliefs vary and that there are many sites and other sources about True Ancient Satanism besides JoS (Joy of Satan).
For example some SS (Spiritual Satanists) are simply against the Abrahamic Religions and do Reverse Torah Rituals, they aren't against the Jewish Race. While some Spiritual Satanists only believe the True Ancient Satanism part and meditate, they don't do Reverse Torah Rituals and aren't against any race/religion and have nothing to do with National-Socialism.
 
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The Kilted Heathen

The Kilted Heathen

Crow FreyjasmaðR
Talientia said:
THIS IS WHERE PEOPLE HAVE PROBLEMS. Its believed Satan and His Daemons are National-Socialists and that Adolf Hitler was a Spiritual Satanist. They also believe the Jewish Holocaust was over-exaggerated and a lie, that millions of people DID die but by disease not death camps...
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Well, that and the association of my (and other peoples') Gods with a Hebrew angel/Roman god, and the claim that they're aliens. I mean, you've a right to your belief and that's all well and fine, but I disagree.
 
1137

1137

Here until I storm off again
Premium Member
Angry children, the lot of them. I think one actually just popped up here again, but time will tell. At least the ONA is fun to read and ponder!
 
Serpent Child

Serpent Child

Member
1137 said:
Angry children, the lot of them. I think one actually just popped up here again, but time will tell. At least the ONA is fun to read and ponder!
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What?? And there are many over 21 who are Spiritual Satanists. I know many other adults who practice this, the oldest I've met is in his 40s.
 
1137

1137

Here until I storm off again
Premium Member
Talientia said:
What?? And there are many over 21 who are Spiritual Satanists. I know many other adults who practice this, the oldest I've met is in his 40s.
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I simply mean intellectually/emotionally. Hate groups rely on such psychological immaturity and angst.
 
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Kapalika

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Talientia said:
There are thousands of Satanists whom associate with Joy of Satan (JoS) and the numbers are growing. I've heard "Spiritual Satanism" is a term coined by the JoS. Let me give you a rundown of their beliefs-

True Ancient Satanism is based upon the ancient religions, such as Ancient Hinduism and Ancient Buddhism. Some of the Ancient Satanic Scriptures are the Al-Jilwah, the Qu'ret Al Yezid, the Emerald Tablets of Thoth, Sanskrit Texts, ect. Since Satan's name is found in ancient sumerian Hieroglyphs (IMG_3594 — Postimage.org), its believed He is also the Sumerian God Enki/Ea. In their faith Satan is also: Shiva, Loki, Odin, Agni, Legba, Enkai, Anki (this is where Ankh comes from), Phanes, Oannes, Prometheus, Dionysus, Buddha, Cronos, Saturn, and many, many more. Demons are the Original Pagan Gods of the Gentiles as well so its believed Demons are also Egyptian, Sumerian, Greek, Celtic, Irish, African, Asian, Norse, Indian, Babylonian, ect Gods/Goddesses (and that Demons of Satan are advanced Siddha's from other galaxies).
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Satanism is and always was a relatively modern thing. Satanism couldn't of existed without Satan, and so it can't predate (at the very least) Judaism but the way most Satanists go about Satanism it's inherently a post-Christian religion. And even if, in theory, someone worshiped Samael before Christianity created the "fallen angel" mythos, they would effectively be worshiping a subservient of Yahweh, At least if you take the lore of Satan/Samael for what it was in the Talmudic/post Talmudic mythos.

I just find the whole "Satan is X Y and Z ancient god but renamed!" thing rather silly. Sure, the popular image of Satan was crafted from a handful of pagan gods, but as far as I'm aware all of those were Roman which makes sense since the early Christians thought that the Romans were the most evil thing ever. I mean, heck Nero is actually the Beast refereed to in Revelation, if that is any indication.

Talientia said:
The whole goal of True Ancient Satanism is to raise the Kundalini Serpent (that lays dormant at the base of the spine and once its raised you reach Godhead) and complete the Magnum Opus (spiritual & physical immortality) as Satan intended it to be. So basically becoming a God and Immortal through power meditation, they have to make their own power meditation program and meditate every single day. They work, empower and open their Chakras daily. Reincarnation is a fact in this religion and they do past life hypnosis / past life meditations to gain the knowledge from their past lives.

Now they believe Satan and His Daemons are highly advanced extraterrestrials from the planet DU'AT, its in the Orion Region. They think Satan and His Daemons are also the "Anunnaki" and that Satan along with some of the Gods (Demons) created Humanity through genetically engineering the hominids that were already there [believed that Satam is a scientist and genetics engineer). Its a misconception that they (Annunaki / just look up "ancient Sumerian Tablets" for this) wanted to make Humans as slaves for gold mining or as a slave race, they actually created Humans to help the Gods (Demons), the earth and to be the stewards of the earth - the wise care takers of our planet.
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So basically someone read Serpent Power and decided to mix that with a plot from a sci-fi movie?

Talientia said:
THIS IS WHERE PEOPLE HAVE PROBLEMS. Its believed Satan and His Daemons are National-Socialists and that Adolf Hitler was a Spiritual Satanist. They also believe the Jewish Holocaust was over-exaggerated and a lie, that millions of people DID die but by disease not death camps. Its believed that the Jewish Race is an alien race not created by Satan, that the Jews were put here by Reptilians and that they have Reptilian DNA. That its programmed into
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Talientia said:
the Jews DNA and in their soul to destroy Gentiles and the planet. Its also believed that National-Socialism is Political Satanism while Communism is Political Judaism..
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I guess I had forgotten how insane the JoS was, and somehow the fact that they think Jews are aliens escaped me for all these years... although I think I once saw a mention to something along those lines in their message group but I thought it was just a random theory a member had not an actual position of their organization. Ironic how they claim to worship a Jewish angel (Satan) that they think is somehow not of Jewish origin.

Talientia said:
Thats basically the bulk of it. Please keep in mind beliefs vary and that there are many sites and other sources about True Ancient Satanism besides JoS (Joy of Satan).
For example some SS (Spiritual Satanists) are simply against the Abrahamic Religions and do Reverse Torah Rituals, they aren't against the Jewish Race. While some Spiritual Satanists only believe the True Ancient Satanism part and meditate, they don't do Reverse Torah Rituals and aren't against any race/religion and have nothing to do with National-Socialism.
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So I take it that these people, perhaps including you, come from one of the many offshoot groups that split off of the JoS because of the hate speech stuff? I recall reading about it years ago but the exact details escape me. I know there was at least one or two other groups that lasted at least a little while. If you see this and you know about it, would you care to fill us in on those split off groups and perhaps bring some sources?
 
V

vijeno

Member
Toten said:
Joyofsatan(DOT)com!

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Why are there so many people trying to promote such a site?
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Just to add another perspective: I can't remember seeing any links like that. I guess you watch a different part of youtube than I, and also, it would probably not have stood out to me. So I'd say your impression that there are "so many people" like that is partly due to preselection, you just consume the same videos they do.
 
Aštra’el

Aštra’el

Aštara, Blade of Aštoreth
As if the notion of certain gods being advanced extraterrestrial or intradimensional beings is so fantastical to consider. When various myths talk about beings descending to earth from heavenly realms, I wonder how one does one not at least consider the majestic expanse of space.
 
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