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What response did you give the sent ones?
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Why can't you accept Jesus as a Prophet?
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
If such a thing were to happen, I think my response would be "What? Did I die or did someone slip me some acid?"
Amd from there none of the responses reflect the thoughts of someone who rejects totalitarian and authoritarian rule.
Because the Jews don't accept him and he himself, according to the Gospels, claimed to be more than a prophet, which he certainly wasn't imo. He doesn't fit in the Jewish paradigm and he doesn't fit their definition of the Mashiach - and since Mashiach is who he claimed to be and according to Judaism he clearly wasn't, he's out for being wrong.
Where did he claim to be more then a Prophet in the Gospels? And why is his acceptance contingent on Jews believing in him?
This just a question that if Islam is true and day of judgment happens and it's proven it's not illusion or magic or sorcery happening what excuse would you offer?
He claimed this his kingdom is not of this world etc.
Because the Jews were given the Torah and they were thus given the keys to understanding, in this paradigm, the true religion. They have the learning and the language etc. They know it best and if they say someone is not a prophet, he's not a prophet, imo.
In my experience, Muslims are given the Quran, but don't understand it and misplace many words away from their proper place. I don't think a people being given a book means they held on to it and their judgment is true.
I guess I just have much more faith in the Jews upholding their traditions and knowledge.
So it seems. They didn't really show too much commitment per the Torah itself when they took the golden calf as a God in my view. Never depend on people.
But, to me, the fact that God still made the covenant with them after that point suggests to me that they can indeed be trusted.
QuestioningMind
Well-Known Member
You failed to adequately identify who the genuine 'sent ones' were from the countless people who falsely claim to be among the 'sent ones', so clearly you didn't really care whether or not I got the message.
I think these messengers, while having good intentions were deluded thinking they were messengers from God.
While much of what they said I mostly agree with without their claiming authority from God, I don't believe they had such authority.
Saw no reason to believe they had this authority.
Lots of stories of miracles but I've seen how these stories can be created by otherwise good people in their desire to believe.
So expecting me to take these stories on faith having never met these individuals myself was not very realistic.
I wouldn't really feel the need to accept any responsibility for God's lack of foresight.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
I offer no excuses. I reject totalitarian rule, I reject dictatorships, I reject authoritarianism. And there is no excuses, I reject the ways of Abraham's God, if any of them are true.
He was sent to you, you just didn't open the door and now you're joining me and @Shadow Wolf in hell
Kooky
Freedom from Sanity
That's kind of his fault isn't it? Even the postal guys leave a note in my box if they can't find me at the door.He was sent to you, you just didn't open the door and now you're joining me and @Shadow Wolf in hell
You are aware that this position is just as applicable to your own self as well?
Regards Tony
Have you accepted the Bab and Baha'u'llah?
Your answer may clarify your question.
Regards Tony